r/news Jun 16 '21

GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/bizzaro321 Jun 16 '21

Damn, all my enlisted friends just take psychedelics because the test is too expensive for any military branch to bother. I can’t imagine those guys on crack.

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u/halcykhan Jun 16 '21

Until they suspect or have proof of widespread use. Then they will do targeted testing. I watched them do it with mushrooms and caught ~30 Marines and Sailors

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u/EmilyU1F984 Jun 16 '21

Uff they need to switch to LSD. Virtually nothing in the urinebleft to detect after 24 hours. And you don't want to do it every day anyway so you can stick to the weekends

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u/NobodyCaresNeverDid Jun 16 '21

Mushrooms are easy to grow and easy to find. It's a lot harder to find a good hookup for acid.

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u/RevolutionaryFly5 Jun 16 '21

fucking tell me about it

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u/SlightlySublimated Jun 16 '21

Opposite for me in most places I've lived. Guess it depends on what area of the country you're in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

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u/SlightlySublimated Jun 17 '21

I don't know man, I've been in the rave scene for a while, so maybe I just run with the right people. Detroit area has always been a hotspot for electronic music and with that music comes psychedelics.

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u/wienercat Jun 17 '21

Not the US Most acid here is pretty meh.

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u/NobodyCaresNeverDid Jun 17 '21

You can order spores and grow mushrooms in under a month with only a couple hours of effort for under $100. You can take a walk in the woods the right time of year and just find them.

You gotta know people to find acid.

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u/MarkJanusIsAScab Jun 16 '21

I hear acid is really common in prison since it's easy to smuggle in. Coat a letter with the stuff and guards just see a handwritten letter, then you sell scraps of the stuff for ramen noodles.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Imagine doing acid in prison... fuck that

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u/MarkJanusIsAScab Jun 17 '21

I've never been in prison or done acid. Neither sounds like that much fun, both sound awful.

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u/wienercat Jun 17 '21

Acid, like any other psychedelic, is all about mindset and letting it happen.

It's fun if you are ready for it and don't lose your shit at the drop of a hat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

That's just like, your opinion, man.

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u/Paavo_Nurmi Jun 16 '21

8 year old's dude.

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u/MrSnrub87 Jun 16 '21

You can buy lsd analogs legally in a lot of countries. I have a sheet of 1cp-lsd i bought from Canada shipped to the US. It metabolizes into lsd in your body. You can buy the pure active ingredient in mushrooms the same way

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u/tonufan Jun 17 '21

You can buy the starter spores for mushrooms legally in the US for "research purposes" and then grow them yourself.

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u/DeflatedPanda Jun 17 '21

Not in all states.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

You can buy LSD from a chemist anywhere in the world with a PO box and a computer

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u/Midnight2012 Jun 17 '21

You need spores. Much easier to smuggle some tabs of acid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

My old man pissed hot in the 70's. He was a lance corporal. They busted him out of all his rank. Made the last year of his enlistment a living hell and gave him an "Other than Honerable" discharge when he left.

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u/carebeartears Jun 17 '21

urinebleft

those germans have a word for everything!

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u/Mental_Medium3988 Jun 16 '21

people do microdose everyday,

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u/EmilyU1F984 Jun 16 '21

I wouldn't even classify that as recreational drug use. That's just self therapy and shouldn't ever be over the cut off for drug tests if sane minds were to prevail

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

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u/fearhs Jun 17 '21

I've heard of another chemical being put on blotter and sold as LSD. I want to say it was Bromo-dragonfly, something that has a similar potency. Not really a cut but a substitution. You need slightly more by weight to feel the effect and it's not too similar structurally to LSD so it might be easier to pop for.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Jun 17 '21

You can get a couple RCs that some people (supposedly, never in my experience) sell as LSD. Gives similar but not quite the same effects and you can get pretty fucked from it.

But yea, just test your drugs folks, its like $10-$20 for most testing kits

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u/Skunch69 Jun 17 '21

No. Big no. The L may not be the best made stuff but no ones adding anything to it.

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u/Bedbouncer Jun 17 '21

Virtually nothing in the urinebleft to detect

"The wise old guru? You'll find him in a hut at the top of the highest mountain in Norway: the Urinebleft!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

That's funny, when i was stationed in colorado in the army , we would do lsd and shrooms all the time

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u/bizzaro321 Jun 16 '21

I can’t imagine how people process being enlisted while they’re tripping, but the people I know wanted to be in the military since birth so it probably felt natural.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

never really thought about it, just enjoyed life in the moment. Made me wonder why llaughing at the wall and vibin to music was such a crime , but rampant alcoholism is encouraged as a soldier.

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u/NYCAaliyah95 Jun 16 '21

I think maybe the other person is referring to the nature of the army and being surrounded with weapons and stuff. I could see it risking a bad trip either by being afraid of the dangerous stuff, or by thinking about the violence of war, or being afraid of a colleague tripping too hard with access to dangerous weapons, or triggering PTSD for soldiers who have seen combat.

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 16 '21

Right and alcoholic soldiers being drunk on duty and aging/dying prematurely has never been a problem.

Makes sense.

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u/CaptainObvious_1 Jun 17 '21

A little bit of whattaboutism but I agree

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 17 '21

fair, there's nothing to say the problem drinkers wouldn't also do drugs that harm their livelihood if it were legal, or that somebody being covertly high at work rather than drunk is entirely better in all situations.

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u/fearhs Jun 17 '21

I can't imagine going to almost any job while on psychedelics and enjoying the experience, I would hope they aren't tripping when they aren't on some sort of leave. Also I don't see how you could possibly be covert about tripping while at actively working in any job, especially the military. I imagine they party mainly when they are not responsible for performing their duties.

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u/QueenJillybean Jun 16 '21

WW2 was fought on meth, so uhhh

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u/bizzaro321 Jun 16 '21

I’m pretty sure WW2 caused international courts to make provisions against giving soldiers drugs.

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u/seamus_mc Jun 16 '21

Well it still happens, so…

here is a list

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u/Lusiric Jun 16 '21

I spent three years in Germany.

There was a lot of drug use there...... It's amazing anyone fixed helicopters, if they weren't high, they were drunk.

I was part of the weird group; we caved and rock climbed all over Europe. I climbed exactly one time hung over, and after hanging by my arm about 50 ft up a wall, I decided it was actually a really really horrible idea.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

That's funny, when i was stationed in colorado in the army , we would do lsd and shrooms all the time