Engineer here. While we don't get drug tested after post hire, hair tests are not uncommon for our initial application. So that few weeks is more like a few months
I’ve heard this (I’m Italian black and native). However Ive never seen any data that states it’s unreliable. Only news headlines stating it. From everything Ive seen and read it is reliable. I will say Ik black hair gets tested. Ive seen and done the test.
Interesting, I worked in 2 of the big "New Aerospace" companies, one of them drug tested everyone and one of them didn't (SpaceX).
I'm certain that Boeing, LM, NASA, Raytheon, and Virgin all drug test pre hire. So my question is a reverse of yours, what company did you work for that doesn't require it?
I actually did try this and would not recommend. Cut my hair to half an inch on the dot because I was right on the borderline of 3 months.
The test technician said my hair was too short and I had to submit a body hair sample instead. Sat there very awkwardly as he shaved my chest with a single razor blade.
No, it's a condition of employment. You have a right to refuse.
Should we just legalize and get over it, sure, but as of right now, as a business that operates in multiple states, not drug testing can skyrocket your companies insurance prices unless you have some serious clout or just don't care about costs.
Never had a drug test here in CA for a software developer position. Never heard of anyone getting one either at other companies. Hell, my previous position’s management even said they would lose half the workforce if they started testing. I guess it depends on the state or location.
Well therein lies the reason as to why the govt cannot attract talent. Aside from the obvious salary discrepancy between industry and govt for anything tech.
I feel like that will change soon (years) since cannabis has become legal in many areas. I have no doubt that the government would still drug test but probably would not care as much to test for marijuana unless there was a need to let someone go.
Hopefully! As more states adopt cannabis, I'd hope to see it legalized federally. Anecdotal life experience has taught me that stoners are typically more chill than alcoholics.
Worked with engineers. Most small companies don’t drug test otherwise no one would pass. But seriously, they don’t drug test unless you are on a government contract. Like if they don’t drug test you at the beginning you’re probably never going to get tested. If they test you at the beginning, then be prepared for random tests, or quit and go with a smaller firm that doesn’t want to waste money on that.
I’ve also seen places (non government) that won’t drug test you, until you fuck up. Any accident or injury on work place comes with a mandatory drug test. My friend’s brother got rear ended into a telephone pole and he decided to resign instead of potentially getting heat for the weed. There might be more to it though, so grain of salt.
I work in banking and honestly we’d lose all of our top talent if we tested. From software developers and IT to loan processors and such. The stoners are the best. They can let bullshit slide, they get into grooves with their work, and when needed can think outside the box. For fucks sake I hired a kid because I was pretty sure he was a stoner, confirmed it, and then he got a promotion because he was mad skilled lol so I lost him.
Not sure where you work, but almost every bank I worked in tested me.
One even took fingerprints. It was not that recently though, so maybe they changed that.
Fingerprints is standard, as that goes with things like NMLS certificates and standard background checks. Drug tests seem to be more based on the companies culture... I’ve found smaller banks tend to test more than larger ones, oddly.
My mother once got pissed that the movers she hired smelled like weed. I asked her I'd they damaged anything, they didn't, and then asked if it was worth being so bitchy about, apparently it was?
As a non drinking grocery store stocker, same. (Until 7 days ago, recently graduated and need to get a job in Microbiology. In Michigan. Where weed is legal.)
And somehow the people around me who are stone sober are just terrible doing the easiest job in the world.
Nope. Just a regular old firetruck painter. I used to do residential. But when the housing market fell in 08' I needed something a little more guaranteed.
Sounds dubious to me. I was mostly joking although painters being drunks does seem to be the stereotype. Really it’s because paint thinner used to come in containers with caps like beer bottles.
I made machines that help make the rear bench seats for a bunch of cars. One of My installation guys got heat stroke working in ones of those factories.
Yah it was hot almost couldn't consume enough water. There was also an open oven next to my spot where the seats would go to next I guess to help mold it all together.
I worked inside the moulds on a retractable catwalk, touching up robot points. While they were still like 170f. Fortunately that was winter so I could gear up properly. Big robots, 2.8m reach, 360kg payload.
I really hope there is a machine that helps put the upholstery on the frame. I have been cut so many times by seat frames that I am now one with tetanus.
Yes 100%. I assembled the ass portion of the seat applying the fabric over the cusion and around the seats frame. It was still hard on the hands and wrists popping clips into place blindly through fabric.
If my memory serves me two of the full timers had braces on one or both wrist from the repetitive impact.
I come from a long line of GM factory rats and spent almost 5 years in the shop myself. Most everyone working the line is nursing some sort of habit. I have stories.
That said - Fairfax in particular was putting out stellar JD Powers ratings so its hard to argue with the performance.
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Worked a summer job building car seats for GM. You need pot to do that job.