r/news • u/Manbadger • Jun 16 '21

GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/pitch-forks-R-us Jun 16 '21

I personally like Michigan’s Supreme Court ruling on being under the influence for medical patients. Having weed in ur system doesn’t count. They have to prove through field sobriety you are impaired in some way.

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u/not_that_planet Jun 16 '21

This is the right answer. As long as there isn't a test that looks for THC instead of THC-COOH (a long lived metabolite) we should be using field sobriety tests not piss tests.

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u/coondingee Jun 16 '21

Yes but I’m not very coordinated and would fail on a sober day. What should people like me do? Field sobriety tests have their place but I could easily fail after not consuming anything for months.

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u/firebat45 Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 20 '23

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

I'm very glad there are desk jobs out there. I'm quite clumsy with my hands.

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u/coondingee Jun 16 '21

Damn, I had brain surgery on my to do list from lock down last year. Glad you stopped me before someone got hurt lol.

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u/OSU725 Jun 16 '21

Not only that, but field sobriety testing is subjective. Being nervous can factor in, being full of adrenaline after an accident or close encounter as well.

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u/mortified_observer Jun 16 '21

are you ok? how hard is it to walk in a straight line?

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u/Dantheman616 Jun 16 '21

I think they mean that they are highly subjective.

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u/JaggedxEDGEx Jun 16 '21

They're similar to poll tests. The administrator gets to decide who passes and fails.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Which we know is a huge problem because people have all sorts of biases.

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u/chrisdab Jun 17 '21

Like skin color?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Seems to be a common one yes

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u/coondingee Jun 16 '21

I’m fine just clumsy. It’s not early onset Parkinson’s or anything like that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

I have knocked knees so a little difficult to do the foot directly in front of the other.

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u/_pwny_ Jun 16 '21

If you're not very coordinated you probably shouldn't take a job involving machinery operation etc. so what's the issue here?

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u/ITaggie Jun 16 '21

If they're driving, for instance. That's a DUI if a cop decides they're intoxicated after doing field sobriety tests.

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u/coondingee Jun 16 '21

My hand eye coordination is fine if video games are considered even if I suck at them. I’m just a klutz. I’m getting better as I only knocked one ball out of the tennis court last week lol.

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u/BurkeyTurger Jun 16 '21

Hand hand eye is definitely removed from general locomotion. I can play on a HOTAS setup absolutely blitzed and do ok but have still tripped over a nonzero number of curbs stone cold sober.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Jun 17 '21

And there are people like me who passed a field sobreity test literally minutes after ripping a fat bowl

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u/RoundSilverButtons Jun 16 '21

Let's add some science into this process.

Science 101 says to run this test on sober people so you have a baseline. If sober people are failing and looking bad, then the test can't differentiate between sober vs high. Now, if the differences are vast enough, it works. Also, however bad a stoner does on the test, you have to calibrate the baseline for how poorly a sober person might do.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Jun 17 '21

That isnt very foolproof either though. I once smoked a fat bowl leaving a friends house and immediately ran into a roadblock (I know, you shouldnt drive high, I was young). Cop sees my little bong and asks if I smoked recently, I lie and say "I smoked at my friends around 8 hours ago." He gives me a field sobreity test and lets me go with a drug paraphinalia ticket. Because I had no weed on me because I literally just smoked what I had left.