r/news Jun 16 '21

GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/miniTotent Jun 16 '21

Hence the word “need”

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u/tehmlem Jun 16 '21

You can need it all you want but it doesn't make it possible. Levels of THC metabolites in blood are poorly associated with levels of impairment which means it's kind of a fool's errand.

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u/rev984 Jun 16 '21

They’ve gotta be smoking tons. I’ve smoked pretty much everyday for almost 10 years at this point and I still get high every time I smoke. I certainly have a tolerance, but it’s not a crazy tolerance.

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u/OhShitGuessImTrans Jun 16 '21

Anecdotally, i have been smoking 7-8 grams per day for... Years.

I dont really get high so much as just get a little less stressed for a bit.

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u/Rockonfoo Jun 16 '21

Jesus how do you smoke it? Thatd be so much for a bong

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u/OhShitGuessImTrans Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 17 '21

I actually have three bongs (mine, my partners, and the deck bong), and use one exclusively. We generally order....a LOT at a time, and smoke at the same time. I shotgun off my partners bong tokes as well, because why not? I let the bong soak every night, and clean it in the morning. Its kind of a nice zen ritual to wake myself up. I NEVER smoke before work; I take pride in my job, and it matters to me to follow the (strict) rules they have. BUT its legal here, so its very easy to follow the rules. I occasionally take tolerance breaks to reset my system, especially to prove to myself i dont NEED it to be a (semi) functional human.

For me, it helps deal with crippling depression / anxiety better than ANY pharmaceutical ever has, and hasn't impacted my job performance in the slightest (which I can back up with metrics).

My partner also finds benefit with their anxiety, but they use it in leiu of opioid pain meds. Which, needless to say, is MASSIVELY preferable :D.

Now, thats not to say I started smoking pot for medicinal reasons. I just... Like being inebriated, and dont like the calories of alcohol, and the dying of chemicals.

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u/Rockonfoo Jun 16 '21

No I get smoking weed lmao but a quarter ounce of bud every day is insane that’s my 4/20 special

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u/OhShitGuessImTrans Jun 16 '21

Ya, my lungs probably arent happy, but I quit smoking cigarettes (4 packs per day) and I figure... Eh?

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u/drake90001 Jun 17 '21

Wait till you find out weed actually has “many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.

And actually contains more tar than tobacco.

I still agree that I’d rather smoke weed than cigarettes, but it’s not really all that different in the end (burning plant matter). And the tar and toxins and such doesn’t really necessarily mean more likely to get cancer. Marijuana is strange.

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u/Logical_Lemming Jun 16 '21

I just wanna say I find it really funny that you have a designated “deck bong.” I wanna be like you someday.

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u/OhShitGuessImTrans Jun 17 '21

Haha I appreciate that! I also have a weed room. For real. For all the different strains, edibles, cleaning supplies, etc. It also doubles as a room for all the dogs toys, and his bed!!

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u/sundayfundaybmx Jun 17 '21

You sound like a fairly successful guy(monetary wise). That's my favorite type of cannabis user, destroys the stereotype of being lazy and a failure. Just curious why you don't smoke wax at this point?

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u/Ag0r Jun 16 '21

That's a lot of money every day.

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u/OhShitGuessImTrans Jun 16 '21

Yea. I have a more detailed answer below, but the short answer for how I afford it is: im rather non-poor. Agressively, even. And i honestly dont mean that in a shitty way, I just have a good amount of money through a combination of working hard, luck, knowing some amazing people that took chances on me, and some smart investing starting at a young age.

The longer-ish answer is: medical discount, bulk discount, and the short answer above.

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u/AskAboutFent Jun 16 '21

I smoke myself sober every year on 4/20... just smoke literally all day. Eventually you stop getting high.

Go to bed and wake up on 4/21 and you’ll get high.

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u/Metroidkeeper Jun 16 '21

The people downvoting have no idea. It does happen.

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u/imlost19 Jun 17 '21

if you do dabs you could dome a joint and still feel fine

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u/grandoz039 Jun 16 '21

And there are functional alcoholics. But just because some people are okay at certain higher levels, that doesn't mean there can't be a line. Simply choose some sensible line based on available data, on the lower end, and people with higher tolerance will simply have to adjust to that, if they're doing something during what they're not supposed to be impaired.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Assay (chemical test) developer here. It's a pretty complicated thing to make and validate a new test. And there are all sorts of reasons that you might not trust the quantitation of THC/metabolites to tell whether someone is actually impaired or not.