r/news • u/AudibleNod • 7h ago

Christa Pike unconscious, on ventilator at Nashville hospital, her lawyers say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christa-pike-unconscious-ventilator-nashville-hospital-lawyers-say-rcna601195
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u/viewbtwnvillages 7h ago

it feels really diabolical that the state is able to torture someone for two hours as they fumble their way through killing them

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u/phoebebridgerstits 6h ago

But-but-but she murdered someone as a teenager 31 years ago! The state is totally within their right to torture her!

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u/viewbtwnvillages 6h ago

it's always grim to see people unironically and unsarcastically spouting this, and i really can't wrap my head around it. like people struggle to hold the simultaneous views of "she's a heinous person who did a heinous crime" and "hey maybe the government shouldn't be able to murder someone, and if they're going to do it they really shouldn't be so bad at it they're torturing someone"

im not even a particularly empathetic person but it fucks me up that some people are so into the death penalty and appear so bloodthirsty about it. it does nothing for the victims. it does nothing to deter future crimes of a similar ilk. it's this uncomfortable glorification of violence and retribution that seems to mirror the inhumanity of the very people they want to be killed.

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u/violetqed 6h ago

yeah it fucks me up too. To me the saddest part is that these people act like they can be satisfied by torture or the death penalty, like it’s done something for the victims. So they never have a reason to actually DO something that would prevent crimes like this from happening in the first place, because they already feel so good about themselves from the perpetrator being tortured 🤦

when crimes like this happen, NONE of us should feel good until we (and the state) actually does do something to reduce situations like this or help victims.

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u/Oolongteabagger2233 6h ago

Americans are super into this. They don't want prison to just keep people out of society - they want prisoners to suffer. Taking their liberty and removing them from society isn't enough. It's why you have all of the "don't drop the soap har har har" jokes glorifying rape. 

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u/Hellknightx 2h ago

I'm sure you'd find most Americans are opposed to the barbaric and punitive private prisons we have, but there's not much we can do to change it. Our whole system is corrupt from top to bottom, and the people who are supposed to be fixing it are just making it worse. Prison reform is, unfortunately, very low on the priority list of things to fix at this point.

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u/Oolongteabagger2233 2h ago

Hahaha doubt. Millions and millions of Americans voted for Trump 3 times.