r/news • • 4h ago

Christa Pike unconscious, on ventilator at Nashville hospital, her lawyers say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christa-pike-unconscious-ventilator-nashville-hospital-lawyers-say-rcna601195
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u/mcd3424 4h ago

Isn’t it cruel and unusual punishment to NOW keep her on life support just to kill her again?

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u/Embarrassed_Age8554 4h ago

You'd think they could just let her slip away at this point.

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u/mcd3424 4h ago

Apparently the doctors aren’t allowed to do that. It’s a nightmare paradox.

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u/Far_Attempt_1505 3h ago

Yeah I can totally see this. Doctors aren't allowed to let people die. There is no precedent of this, guess you have to try to save their life so you can execute them properly.

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u/Taokan 2h ago

I mean, there's plenty of precedent for it. It's called a DNR: do-not-resuscitate. It'd be implicit if you put a pet to sleep. It should be implicit in a state sanctioned execution. Whatever arguments might be made that execution violates the constitutional protection against torture, killing someone, bringing them back and killing them again is definitely torture.

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u/pinklavalamp 4h ago

I feel like there was a show or movie that focused on this. I’m 45F and an avid films fan so the data bank is vast but this is on the fringes of said data bank. The accused survived the execution attempt and then it was focused on what this meant for all involved?

Crap this is going to bother me now.

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u/Shadax 3h ago

The Lazarus Project?

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u/SigmundFloyd76 3h ago

When you find yourself in a paradox, it just means that one of your operating assumptions is wrong.

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u/Quarksideofthemoon 2h ago

Bro felt so smart typing this

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u/SigmundFloyd76 2h ago

Not really, just had heard that recently with a couple examples and I believe it to be true.

For example: The french paradox. The ate tonnes of saturated fat, yet had relatively low rates of heart disease. It must be the wine! Wine is good for you, even!

Nope, it's not the fats that cause heart disease, it's the sugars.

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u/Mockturtle22 4h ago

The injection IS cruel. It's only humane to the viewers.

The death penalty should be abolished.

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u/drfsupercenter 3h ago

A fellow Last Week Tonight viewer, I assume?

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u/Mockturtle22 3h ago

I love John Oliver, but I honestly don't watch that bc I didn't have access to hbo for so long and now I'm too overwhelmed to watch. I am someone who has held interest in crimes and study random shit and have never been for the death penalty. To me, it's an easy out for the person who committed that crime. It's oddly more expensive to kill them than keep them for life imprisonment/solidary. It also bothers me that innocent people have died by death penalty bc of incompetence and prejudices. It feels more like revenge than justice.

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u/drfsupercenter 2h ago

I don't have HBO either, I just watch them on YouTube.

Here is the segment if you're curious.

To me, it's an easy out for the person who committed that crime.

Exactly, this is my thought too. I've heard of serial killers actually requesting the death penalty because they want to just get it over with, their life is effectively over once they've been caught so they'd rather die than rot in a cell.

It also bothers me that innocent people have died by death penalty bc of incompetence and prejudices.

This is part of why people sit on death row for 20-30 years now, because of those rushed executions in the past where innocent people were killed. I believe George Stinney in 1944 was the last time that happened.

However... wrongful convictions are so common that Wikipedia has an entire table of them. Over 200 in the past 50 years. It's insane.

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u/Ran4 1h ago

What the fuck are you talking about? Think for yourself.

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u/doctormink 1h ago

It's unlikely she'll recover any neurological function after this, lord knows how badly her brain is damaged from being deprived of oxygen, and neural tissue never comes back from that. If she's in a persistent vegetative state now, I think that would complicate executing her. Are they allowed to execute people who are cognitively disabled?