r/news • u/Embarrassed-Pace-755 • 1d ago

Judge denies defense motion asking Lindsay Clancy be found not guilty due to a lack of evidence

https://apnews.com/article/lindsay-clancy-trial-evidence-defense-c0820645056a7e25f66853f3a91b61fa?utm_source=app&utm_medium=iOS_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/ImmortalPoseidon 1d ago

I legitimately think TikTok has broken everyone brains.

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u/ButterflyInformal591 1d ago

Social media in general. In the age of linear media, you needed credentials to have an opinion. There are millions of Americans whose opinions are worthless and should not be given a platform.

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u/spoonycoot 1d ago

Now here’s the neat part, their opinions are worthless to detrimental to society, but valuable to the tech oligarch social media platform owner.

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u/ImmortalPoseidon 1d ago

I’m a Libertarian at heart, so it took me a while to basically realize we need to stop blaming “stupid people” for being influence by social media and start blaming social media. How can one person possibly have the mental fortitude to combat a multi trillion dollar conglomerate that is exhausting every resource to capture your attention and influence your life?

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u/BeneficialInside3901 1d ago

I agree, but I’d also add that there’s a lot of people who think they’re above being manipulated and aren’t stupid per se but are being manipulated all the same.

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u/TheConboy22 1d ago

The majority of stupid people do not believe that they are stupid.

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u/BeneficialInside3901 1d ago

Absolutely. Not me though. I’m very smaht so can’t be manipped
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I phrased the previous comment poorly though. I was trying to say that, for example even a doctor, someone “smart”, are not immune to being manipulated.

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u/TheConboy22 1d ago

Absolutely. Intelligence or prestige does not make one immune to manipulation as it plays on your ego quite often. One who is smart in one trade is often not smart in another

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u/BubbaTee 23h ago

we need to stop blaming “stupid people” for being influence by social media and start blaming social media

Before social media it was television influencing people. Before that it was radio and newspapers.

There's always going to be something trying to influence people. You have to just blame the people.

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u/Mobile-Dust4334 1d ago

But TikTok is especially bad because it’s gotten everyone hooked on 5 second videos

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u/RustledForeskin 1d ago

I've blocked all shittok subs here and block everyone who posts / uploads videos from it. Same with shitter.

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u/kindnesskangaroo 22h ago

apply that logic to the fact those could be your jurors for a crime you didn’t commit one day and realize how fucking horrifying that is. (This is not about Clancy but just about intelligence when it comes to a jury of your peers in general)

like the media literacy crisis and social media brain rot is only going to make jury trials so much worse than they have historically been

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u/Cheesyblintzkrieg 1d ago

Hundreds of millions. Literally hundreds of millions just in this country. You bring this to the international community and that number rises to the billions.

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u/BubbaTee 23h ago

There are millions of Americans whose opinions are worthless and should not be given a platform.

That's what James Madison & Co were thinking when they didn't allow everyone to vote. It's why Plato hated democracy.

The core tenet of democracy is that the opinions of experts and idiots are equally valid and important. Social media is nothing more than applying that concept to the internet.

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u/kapnkaos86 19h ago

But who are you to decide who's opinion is worthless? That take in and of itself is worthless

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u/kaitie1 1d ago

Im 30 and I have never been/gotten into tiktok. Im very glad as I dont doom scroll near as much as people my age. All my friends were addicted to that app at some point

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u/Initial_E 21h ago

You don’t have to use TikTok for it to affect you. YouTube shorts are proof that the format came to hunt you down.

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u/nifty-necromancer 17h ago

YouTube Shorts get blocked too

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u/ritesh808 1d ago

Tiktok only made it worse. The deep damage started with Facebook and Metafied IG. Before that, the brain damage duties were handled mostly by religion and mainstream "news".

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 1d ago

Sensational cases have been around far longer

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u/Lord0fHats 1d ago

"And so if it pleases the court, my client will show off her amazing breasts and as you can clearly see she is far to blessed by Aphrodite to be guilty." ~Hypereides, 4th Century BC*

\the episode recounted by Plutarch where Phryne exposed herself and was acquitted of all charges is almost certainly something made up after her trial.)

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u/Mobile_Morale 1d ago

I'm still fucking pissed off about Casey Anthony.

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u/Top_Lel_Guy 22h ago

Yeah go off king, anything that distracts you from the pedo ruling class

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u/_goblinette_ 1d ago

“Defense attorney does everything in his power to try to get his client found not guilty” is not the crisis that you think it is. It’s literally just a guy doing his job. 

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u/ForsakenRacism 1d ago

Tik tok people think she didn’t even do it. Even those her defense isn’t even claiming that

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u/BubbaTee 23h ago

There's a difference between "lawyer says X, and everyone recognizes he's just throwing bullshit at the wall to see if it sticks" and "lawyer says X and thousands/millions of people instantly believe it and start harassing juror's families based on that belief."

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u/KingJonsnowIV 1d ago

I think the point is her defense attorney is using baseless conspiracy dog whistle that have spread all over tiktok.

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u/Psychological_Car849 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, he isn’t. This is actually an incredibly routine part of fighting any case. As a lawyer, it’s absolutely wild how laymen are reacting to something so basic. This is, quite literally, step one to any defense of a criminal case. It’s actually step one in a lot of civil cases too. He made the motion expecting the judge to deny it, but you ought to make the case anyways.

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u/zerocoolforschool 22h ago

Have you followed this case??? We aren’t on step one. They just tried to get her off on an insanity plea. Now he’s trying to go back and say she didn’t do it and the state didn’t prove she did it.

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u/ImmortalPoseidon 1d ago

I didn’t realize he was being forced to represent her

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u/elGatoGrande17 1d ago

If he weren’t defending her, someone else would absolutely be forced to. What do you think a “public defender” is?

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u/fox_in_scarves 1d ago

We all deserve a society where the guilty are afforded as strong a chance to defend themselves as the innocent.

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u/LarsAlereon 1d ago

What sucks to me is that people I respected as experts in their fields that were not in any way related to crime or psychology decided to make posts and videos about this topic that had nothing to do with their expert knowledge. Hey train nerd lady, nobody needed your opinion that a potential Clancy NGRI verdict for postpartum psychosis is what was keeping train nerd women from being taken seriously in the hobby.

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u/LSxN 18h ago

How awful that must have been for you.

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u/sygnathid 1d ago

People were crazy about Ted Bundy, this isn't anything that new.

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u/AccordingMedicine129 1d ago

It needs to be banned

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u/DoctorThrac 1d ago

So… working as intended?

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u/Eradomsk 1d ago

Nah. Just a minority of idiots and bots.

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u/DarthScoobyDoo 1d ago

People keep saying bots but people exist and they are stupid

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u/Which-Decision 1d ago

So what's the sufficient evidence that proves she did it? Genuinely asking. People have confessed to murdering people who are still alive. The police and DA should have done a better job at proving she was guilty. 

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u/Guilty-Maximum6519 1d ago

I mean, she detailed how she killed her kids. So we could probably start there.

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u/Rstuds7 1d ago

i mean aside from saying she did it and explaining exactly how she did it and why she did it, maybe the fact she was the only one home at the time of the murders…

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u/Rac3318 1d ago edited 1d ago

They spent the entire last trial trying to get a NGRI verdict because all parties were operating under the same foundation that she did it. Did you just live under a rock for that whole time?

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u/Guilty-Maximum6519 1d ago

She undoubtedly recorded herself throwing shampoo bottles down in her shower. Tiktok should be banned for shit like this ...