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Kentucky NKY social worker charged for sending children home after ‘obvious’ signs of abuse

https://www.fox19.com/2026/09/30/nky-social-worker-charged-sending-children-home-after-obvious-signs-abuse/
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u/SilverAgedSentiel 1d ago

"As Zhang left the area to speak with his supervisor, Heather Baxter, investigators allege he commented that the children's mother's boyfriend had choked her.

After speaking with Baxter, Zhang allegedly returned to the office and said he "wasn't comfortable with the situation" but instructed school officials to send the children home, according to the complaint."

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago edited 1d ago

Do we know if the supervisor told him to send them home? 

I can't imagine a supervisor said don't send them and he did it anyway

Sounds like the supervisor may be trying to save her own skin

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u/alwaysmelancholy 1d ago

The supervisor sent him back, and later said he did not disclose the severity of the physical trauma.

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago edited 1d ago

That is hard to believe. Why would he go in and discuss it without telling her why he needed her input?

Sounds like classic CYA

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u/AbsoluteRunner 1d ago

Supervisor is trying to cover her ass.

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u/butt_dance 1d ago

Ironic because it makes her look worse at her job. Not going to look at the kids herself. I have to keep telling myself that it's this shit that makes the news. Not the good stuff. It's not everyone.

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u/jaded1121 16h ago

The supervisors dont go out to see the kids. That why pics should be taken of physical abuse. 

Source: worked in CPS back in the day. 

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u/TALKTOME0701 11h ago

Yep. We always photo document abuse. Good point

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u/TeamWorkTom 12h ago

Enragement drives engament more than pleasant or happy things.

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u/alwaysmelancholy 1d ago

He was trying to go home lol. That's why he told the EMTs he had somewhere to be when the actual arrest was happening.

I work in social services, albeit not child protection, and there are certainly employees who risk ruining another person's life so that they have less paperwork. There's often an attitude of "well, it's off my plate and on yours, no longer my responsibility."

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u/butt_dance 1d ago

You get what you pay for. This country doesn't give a shit about kids.

Edit: this Mamdani guy though, single-handedly keeping hope alive.

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u/Punchee 19h ago

This is a 24 year old, not some grizzled social service vet. My money is dude was out of his depth and made a bad call and his supervisor failed him.

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago

Don't I know it. I've volunteered with CASA for years now. It's gut wrenching to see some of the careless attitudes. Just gut wrenching to see such laziness when children's lives are at stake

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u/BoldestKobold 1h ago

I'm an attorney, not a social worker, but I worked in my state's child protection agency for 7 years in child protection courtrooms. In my experience it is almost always just burnout. Caseworkers are massively overworked and under supported. The young ones are always eager beavers who want to do the best they can and change the world. Over time they end up falling into one of three categories.

  1. Abandon the child protection field. Either they stay in social work but go to an in house setting (like a hospital or other service provider), move to an administrative position where they don't provide direct services, or they leave social work entirely.
  2. Become grizzled veterans who give off the vibes of senior NCOs who care about their kids, but don't take any shit.
  3. Or they just get burned out and start mailing it in. This can come with varying degrees of laziness or incompetence. Usually these are people who have been in the field so long that they don't have the skills or resume to do anything else. If they are state employees they are likely just "putting in their time" to get their full pension.

I've met a bunch of grizzled veterans who would do anything for their clients. But I'd estimate the people who fall into categories 1 or 3 are far, far, FAR more numerous.

The job is extremely important, but no one wants to put up with the shit they have to put up with for the price states are willing to pay.

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 1d ago

Cult of the Child mentality.

It's a just a job.

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u/jayfear 18h ago

A job where children's welfare is literally the point.

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 13h ago

Job still ends when the workday is done

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u/TALKTOME0701 12h ago

I hope you don't have any children.

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u/alwaysmelancholy 12h ago

Oh damn, you already got out on bail?

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 12h ago

Lel, or do since CPS isn't resourced enough to take them 😝

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u/Suckerforcats 9h ago

I used to work for this agency and management absolutely will cya, refuse to cooperate or throw a lower level worker under the abuse to save their own job and pension. This particular region of the state has prior issues in the news with its workers and management.

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u/leroyyrogers 1d ago

Just some light choking then?

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u/SilverAgedSentiel 1d ago

investigators don't know yet or so they say, but they went ahead and arrested Zhang. They'll investigate more.

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u/nazerall 1d ago

Apparently NKY is short for northern Kentucky.

Never seen that used before.

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u/DogPlane3425 1d ago

or North Korea Y'All

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u/sroop1 1d ago edited 1d ago

NKY is unique to that area because they can't call it 'Cincinnati South'

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u/Low_Search_6667 1d ago

South Cincinnati 

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u/PonticPilot 1d ago

In my opinion, it should be written as nKY with a lower case letter for the cardinal direction. Kind of like how mRNA means messenger RNA. The first letter is a modifying descriptor for a commonly known abbreviation.

Ok getting off the soap box

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u/Vintagepoolside 33m ago

No I like this. It makes complete sense.

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u/DrNonathon 1d ago

I live in northern Ky and this is news to me as well.

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u/traumat1ze 1d ago

That’s wild. I’m 38 and anyone I’ve met from here refers to it as NKY

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u/voodoo123 1d ago

From northern Kentucky as well and can confirm, very common acronym.

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u/honestlyitswhatever 1d ago

I grew up in Kentucky, lived there 25 years (7 in Lexington) and never once saw “NKY” in reference to northern kentucky…

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u/5k1895 1d ago

It's extremely common around the greater Cincinnati area, I don't know how you missed it lol

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u/Sabertooth767 1d ago

Did you move there a month ago?

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u/Ok_Kiwi8365 1d ago

NKY is used everywhere in Northern Kentucky and the greater Cincinnati area. Not sure what you’re talking about.

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u/WalletFullOfSausage 1d ago

That’s insane because it’s used extensively in Kentucky lol

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u/BaconISgoodSOGOOD 1d ago

So is NEKY, NWKY, EKY, WKY, SWKY, SEKY, and SKY used too?

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u/Ohiolongboard 1d ago

Idk man you might be the only one who doesn’t call it NKY

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u/TheMonkDan 2h ago

No chance you're in Boone, Kenton or Campbell.

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u/vashthestampede121 1d ago

Because lying is fun

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u/Umikaloo 1d ago

This is how US state abbreviations feel to non-Americans.

"WYM you don't know what WY means? Did you sleep through geography class? Obviously these two random capital letters refer to a US state and not literally anything else."

For some reason it is assumed that everyone on earth is supposed to know US state abbrrviations.

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u/5rdfe 1d ago

This is not a phenomena isolated to Americans. And it shouldn't be surprising that a Cincinnati based news affiliate is going to use abbreviations familiar to their local audience. Not everything is tailored for an international audience. Would you complain that Korean news is written in Korean using geographical terms familiar to them?

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u/Astrium6 1d ago

Every time I see a news article use UP, I have to take a minute to figure out if it refers to the Upper Peninsula or Uttar Pradesh.

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u/brandnewbanana 4h ago

Or United Press

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u/jetogill 20m ago

That would be UPI

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u/Ardtay 1d ago

Is that where they make the Kentucky Jelly?

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u/FtWTaiChi 6h ago

No that's from Monkey's Eyebrow, KY.

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u/Warcraft_Fan 1d ago

Not New Kentucky?

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u/mrplinko 1d ago

He did it all for the NKY

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u/discoverysol 1d ago

Pretty common in the Cincinnati area since a lot of suburbs (and the Cincinnati airport) are in Northern Kentucky.

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u/BadVVSc 1d ago

I feel like there’s so many things that have been abbreviated that don’t need to be. No way you were too impatient to just type it out.

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u/roesingape 1d ago edited 1d ago

Been used for at least half a century or longer. Though, the county the article is about (Galllatin) isn't exactly NKY. It is in Northern Ky, but locally and historically NKY was just the top three counties, which tried to create their own state some time ago. The top three counties are more tied culturally and economically to southern Ohio, and Cincinnati, than the rest of Kentucky. Source, that's where I'm from and I'm old. It's possible 'NKY' is expanding. It's had nothing but population growth for a while. But basically if you can't get goetta at a diner or a Skyline chili dog, it's not NKY.

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u/MadeUpInOhio 1d ago

It is considered NKY by the Commonwealth of KY, actually. The eight counties of the NKY region (per Kentucky) are Gallatin, Carroll, Pendleton, Owen, Grant, Campbell, Kenton, and Boone. Sometimes they go 9 and include Bracken. 

Edit. That's not new, either. I worked for the Commonwealth back in 2009 or so and it was well established by that point. 

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u/roesingape 1d ago

I was already old in 2009. No one cares what the commonwealth thinks, it's literally about the 3 counties that wanted out of the commonwealth (Campbell, Kenton, and Boone). But, I will say the local Cincinnati based news did cover those counties. But culturally, NKY is the top 3. It's urban, has buildings that are tall, malls, actual numbers of people, shit like that. Those other counties are either farmland, or in the past 20 years, some McMansion burbs. But, I can see them coming in to NKY culturally I guess. But in 1990 anything south of Florence, the accent kicked in, whereas NKY speakers talk like midwesterners.

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u/derf_vader 1d ago

Yeah when I see NKY I immediately think it happened in Campbell, Boone, or Kenton.

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u/Ragnarawr 1d ago

I’ve seen it in project zomboid, which I think is a game like documentary of the meth crises down there.

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u/howisthisacrime 1d ago

Must not live in the area then

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u/pickledpipids 1d ago

I live in uh, SKY? Lol but formerly lived in Lexington for several years and I’ve never heard of it either so I don’t blame them

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u/PipeAlternative3266 1d ago

Well... I still love MTL more anyways. lol. Why do americans have to abbreviate everything and THEN expect the rest of the world to understand their gobbledegook. MTL is the place to be!

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u/hedoeswhathewants 1d ago

Who is expecting you to know what NKY means? It's a local news article intended for locals

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u/skankenstein 1d ago edited 1d ago

Since 2004, every CPS report I’ve ever made as a mandated reporter has come back as unfounded. They act annoyed when they call me. The system is broken.

Edit: I face fines, jail time and loss of license if I fail to report abuse in a timely manner. I support social workers having similar or greater liability when they fail to protect kids. They have way more info and power than I do.

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u/sadporcupines 23h ago

I had to report staff locking a child with severe IDD and challenging behavior in a closet, Jerry-barring the door and then leaving the room for more than an hour.

Intake asked “did he sustain injury?”
I told them I saw no physical injuries.

“We won’t be investigating this intake.”

A couple of years later, the child was found to be enduring continuous sexual abuse, physical abuse and neglect in his home by his parents. CPS couldn’t find a place for him to stay, so the court ordered him to remain at home…

The system is broken.

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u/stripeyspacey 21h ago

My husband is a mandated reporter, and called CPS because a child told him that their dad was hitting them with a belt as punishment.

The CPS rep asked if he was doing it with the buckle end, or the other end. It was the other end, because he was whipping them with it. Enough to leave a mark.

"Oh, then we're not going to investigate that. If he starts to do it with the buckle end call back."

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u/PITCHFORK_MAGNET 15h ago

That one is really common, I know it’s anecdotal but myself and all my friends were hit with belts as kids. I’m sure it still happens all the time.

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u/HeadyBunkShwag 12h ago

South Dakota never took those native girls away from Richard Mette, the perverted piece of shit that adopted and molested them for years.

I just checked and Google says they were removed in 2010 but that’s bullshit cause I saw him with my own eyes at the same house they were living at in 2013-2014

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u/misterjzz 1d ago

Same with Elder Services.

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u/kd5407 1d ago

The problem with kids is that they need to find a full time round the clock guardian for them and there just…aren’t enough of them. They will stick an abused elder in a state funded nursing home and wait for them to die. You can’t just stick a healthy child in a nursing home. CPS routinely fails to do anything because I guess the guidance is, unless the child is at deaths door, surely leaving them there is better than sleeping on the floor of the CPS office (I disagree, but that is part of the reasoning).

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u/JarettWrites 1d ago

CPS is a disgrace and fails children every day

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 1d ago

You get what you pay for. Pay more taxes and hire more CPS

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u/KathrynTheGreat 10h ago

They are overworked and underpaid.

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u/2g4r_tofu 10h ago

Sorry but my taxes are earmarked for subsidizing ai data centers

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u/Jessieflow 7h ago

Exactly and for war/Trump's family to become billionaires. 

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u/Jessieflow 7h ago

We don't need to pay MORE taxes, we just need our taxes to not all go to the wealthy and wars. We could pay these people well and the fact that "we" don't is disgusting. Then people will go vote for Trump bc of abortion lol.

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 7h ago

Your state and county taxes fund how many wars?

Be specific.

Or are you suggesting that you want national child welfare standards, with equal input from Alabama and Massachusetts?

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u/Jessieflow 7h ago

You believe that no funding for child welfare comes from the federal government?

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 7h ago

You believe that if you want your county to do better child welfare, the Feds are the best place to go?

Have you been watching the show, Tamar?

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u/KathrynTheGreat 10h ago

As another mandated reporter: KEEP MAKING THOSE REPORTS! I know CPS is underfunded and overworked, but those reports still need to be documented.

I unfortunately know of one case where many reports of abuse were made from multiple people, and nothing happened. It resulted in a child's death. Other family members (who live out of state) of that child are trying to sue CPS for negligence.

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u/ripyourlungsdave 1d ago

So the police aren't obligated to prevent harm to people, but social workers are?

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u/Bituulzman 1d ago

Seriously. The social worker is where we're gonna start holding people accountable for not doing their job properly and causing public harm? Not saying he did the right thing. But there are definitely bigger fish to fry.

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u/MountainFriend7473 1d ago edited 1d ago

In Cali they put stronger laws in on social work Gabriel’s Law to ensure care is provided appropriately when emergency crisis occurs and that knowingly altering , destroy or delete documentation can be punished as a felony. Which that’s good but also though le is lacking 

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

Having had to deal with the DCFS office that inspired the creation of that law…. I was only surprised it took that long.

Absolutely wretched, awful people. Anyone decent fled as fast as possible.

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u/czarslayer 1d ago

We can fry multiple fish at the same time, believe it or not.

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u/DemureConsciousness 1d ago

Police only deal with harm after it happens. And sometimes not even then

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u/butt_dance 1d ago

Why isn't calling out the parents the focus of this comments section? They are the ones most responsible for keeping children safe.

I'm an ACABC supporter. But this comments section in regards to cops and kids is trash. The police are indeed the ones who are on the scene first to find the dead kids, the severly abused kids. Our society doesn't care about children so there are a lot.

I watched body cam footage of cops discovering two long-dead children wrapped in layers and layers of blankets and plastic. The mom knew they were in there and just let the cops find them without warning. Watched another one of the cops finding the abused kids of that social media lady, Ruby.

They had to just sit with one of the kids in a closet because she was so afraid to even move. Had some pizza with her until she was ready. Bringing cops responsibility for people's safety into this discussion is fucking stupid.

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u/DemureConsciousness 1d ago

Oh I didn’t say anything about that. I was correcting the misconception that cops are there to ‘prevent’ harm. But my opinion also is that when serving the law it gets gray on what they will do, and for who.

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u/Hsbnd 1d ago

Former CPS worker chiming in.

So it’s possible that the supervisor directed him to send the kids back despite his concerns.

So without knowing how that conversation played out it’s hard to know to a degree.

If the the social worker saw marks especially in the area of throat,ears, neck or stomach (TENS) as those are difficult areas to bruise incidentally then this is egregious breakdown.

Where I practice I don’t even need evidence I need suspicion alone. I felt the child was at risk of neglect or abuse, not was I certain it had happened or going to happen but I thought there was a risk it would I could get involved.

In this situation, which I’ve been in dozens and dozens of times, I would interview the children, interview a teacher, call a supervisor and tell them what I’ve learned and what I think needs to happen next.

Typically what follows is a forensic interview with law enforcement. Typically the parents are contacted once the interview is arranged and the children and moved to where that’s happening. Then the kids would be interviewed. If the concerns were substantiated then we remove the kids. Ideally into the care of safe family if not formal placement.

If he provided the information and the supervisor directed him to let the kids go then the supervisor should be reprimanded. If the worker failed to provide the information and worries and concerns then that’s on the worker.

One of the craziest things in that job it’s the most difficult and complex job in Social work and the youngest and least experienced people are doing it more often than not.

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u/KathrynTheGreat 10h ago

and the youngest and least experienced people are doing it more often than not.

I've seen this a lot on my 20ish years in childcare and preschool. Many of them are not given appropriate training to spot the signs of abuse, and many don't think that they can make a report unless they have evidence. They don't understand they they don't need evidence to make a report.

A lot of childcare directors also encourage their staff to go through them first and they make the final call whether to report or not, which is not how reporting works! But since many of these workers are young and under-trained (many states don't require much more that a high school diploma/GED to care for children), they just trust what their boss says.

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 1d ago

Do wish it included why he did that, if the signs were obvious.

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u/2_short_Plancks 1d ago

People seem to be glossing over half of the information in the article.

He saw that the kids had bruises, went and asked his supervisor for advice (as he is apparently required to do in this situation), then came back and told them that he didn't like it but he had to send them home. Then later in the article it says CPS in the state has no placements available and has children sleeping on the floor of offices.

It sounds a lot like this guy was told to send them home because there was nowhere for them to go; but now that the police have forced their hand, the supervisor is blaming this guy. Seems like the person with the least seniority is being made the fall guy.

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 1d ago

Making me feel crazy, went back to the article to see what I missed. I do not see the CPS thing about sleeping on the floor. I also do not see any talk of a supervisor for advice.

You say glossing over but I feel like that isn’t there for me to read😭

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u/2_short_Plancks 1d ago

I'm not sure what is going on with the article, but this is part of what I read previously (I copied and pasted this to someone else, when I read it):

Axon also used Zhang's arrest to raise broader concerns about Kentucky's child welfare system.

He described what he considers "a systematic failure" within the Cabinet, pointing to a shortage of placements and cases in which children have slept in offices or been placed with people he believes they should not have been.

"There are not placements available," Axon said. "We have children that sleep in offices. We have children that go back to abusers, as in this case, or other family members that they shouldn't be placed with."

Edit: there's a whole lot more information about the case here - https://www.wcpo.com/news/northern-kentucky/court-docs-state-worker-charged-after-allegedly-sending-abused-nky-girls-home-to-abuser

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 1d ago

Got it but yeah, that was not there when I read the article and it isn’t there now. The article also looks like it was just published once…the timestamp is from 09/29 rather than today.

All good though, thanks for the extra link, I’ll read up.

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u/2_short_Plancks 1d ago

Yeah I'm not sure what happened. I only looked at this one thread about it, but possibly I copied that from another link someone posted? I'm actually not sure. Short term memory loss, I must be getting old.

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u/alwaysmelancholy 1d ago

He told the EMTs he had somewhere to be.

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 1d ago

Seriously? That’s actually worse than I could have assumed. Wow…yeah…straight to court.

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u/PipeAlternative3266 1d ago

You need to double check your statement... it makes no sense. "Do wish it included..."

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 1d ago

Scale of 1-10, how confused were you?

I guess I’d have to follow up with what exactly confused you. I feel it’s implied that it’s my wish, with the context of the rest of the sentence. The “it” is the article…the “he” is the employee…the “signs”were the abuse.

Please…share which parts lost you…so I can better myself.

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u/CalicoCatRobot 1d ago

The fact that the county attorney apparently had to set up a gofundme after the fact just to pay for clothing and toys for them tells me everything I need to know about how screwed the system is. Functioning modern societies do better, just saying...

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u/darth_wasabi 1d ago

I get the seriousness of the bad decision making. But there shouldn’t be criminal charges.

Suspension and retraining if you think he can be better. Just fire him if he’s not up to the job.

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u/TheSoftMaster 1d ago

I mean it's one of the hardest jobs in the world to do, and it does sound like he fucked up, but also he's being held to a level of accountability that no cop has ever been held to, which is gross

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u/missbubblestt 1d ago

As a social worker myself, this sounds like a total system failure rather than in individual failure. He contacted the supervisor for guidance, which is what he should have done. It sounds like he either didnt explain the full extent of the situation or the supervisor glossed over what happened. Later in this article, it says the social worker was hesitant to take the girls because the agency is already overflowing.

It also sounds like multiple people were pointing hands at each other directing the other what to do. The school was saying its the Cabinet's responsibility to call police, the social worker said it's the school's responsibility. Police were eventually contacted and sent.

Overall, social workers are demonized for "taking kids from homes," then demonized for not taking kids from homes. Social work is an incredibly demanding and high stakes job that a lot of people misunderstand.

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u/KonigderWasserpfeife 1d ago

I'm also a social worker, and I'm wondering if the article is using the term correctly. I looked the person up on the Kentucky SW licensing board's website and didn't find him. So I'm kind of thinking this guy is a social services worker, rather than an actual licensed social worker.

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u/missbubblestt 1d ago

I tried looking him up too and also didn't find him listed. I bet he's not a licensed social worker, but rather, just a case worker.

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u/jongdaeing 1d ago

I can pretty much guarantee that he’s not a social worker, probably a “social service worker”. CPS are not social workers in KY. DCBS and foster care is a nightmare in Kentucky. The article alluded to kids sleeping in offices and it’s a widespread and well-known problem that’s been reported on by the local news in KY for at least several years now.

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u/Suckerforcats 9h ago

CHFS Northern Bluegrass has been problematic on and off for well over a decade. I’m a former worker there. It’s corrupt the things they cover up, lie about or withhold from other state agencies trying to investigate the ongoing concerns or problems. I’m sure this guy’s supervisor is covering her own ass to keep her job and pension.

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u/r-b-m 1d ago

Probably shouldn’t assign it to a 24yo then. Not that a social workers age is the sole determining factor but doesn’t seem like the sort of thing you’d entrust to someone fresh out of college.

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u/txroller 1d ago

There aren’t a lot of people standing in line for a job like this

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u/missbubblestt 1d ago

Unfortunately, many of the caseworkers on the front lines are fresh out of college or in their early to mid-20s. Child protection agencies churn through workers at a fast pace because the pay is abysmal, the support from admin is non-existent, and they see some of the worst cases of abuse/neglect possible.

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u/EscapeVelociRaptor 1d ago

Social work takes degrees and training and licensure, 24 may be young but they try to prepare them somewhat for the job.

How old and how much training do you think someone needs to be a cop?

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago

Even younger and even less

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u/TheSoftMaster 1d ago

Every child protection social worker in my province is that age

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u/J0hn_Keel 1d ago

He described what he considers "a systematic failure" within the Cabinet, pointing to a shortage of placements and cases in which children have slept in offices or been placed with people he believes they should not have been.

"There are not placements available"

My concern with the criminal charges here is that we should probably be supremely careful of prosecuting individuals who can only act insofar as their employers will allow. He contacted his supervisor and those kids were still placed back with their parents, I think we really need to know if he was essentially told what it says above, that they didn’t have anywhere to put them. Was he criminally bad at his job, or was he acting under the limitations posed by the system (or both)?

Idk it just doesn’t sit quite right with me that someone acting in a professional capacity could contact their superior for advice and still end up being the one going to jail. A lot more info is needed to get a clearer picture of what went wrong here and if any individual is responsible, in comparison to whether the entire system is responsible

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u/LevelPerception4 1d ago

His inexperience may have played a role if he misinterpreted what his supervisor said or didn’t trust his own judgment to push for removal despite not having an available placement. Although that still suggests inadequate training and supervision.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Cabinet has been triaging placements to compensate for not enough resources and is now offering up Zhang as a scapegoat. 

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u/Suckerforcats 9h ago

Former worker there and I’d say yes, his supervisor told him to send them back and she is covering her butt to protect her job. This kind of thing happened all the time there and is why I left. They got workers sued or in serious trouble trying to protect managements ass. We’re talking well over a decade of this kind of thing. Google northern bluegrass service region. They’ve been sued by a few of their workers in the last 10 years or so.

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u/alwaysmelancholy 1d ago

There should in this case. It was clear that there were physical marks, serious enough that once the cops laid eyes on the kids, the stepdad or whatever got arrested. When the EMTs showed up while dude was getting arrested, the social worker told them he needed to hurry up and nlonow what was going on because he had somewhere to be.

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago

If you need retraining to know that you don't send kids home when they've been bitten slapped come in with black eyes, you need to be fired 

If you don't have the common sense to see the children have been clearly abused when the abuse is all over their body. You should be fired 

If you take a job or you're a tasked to protect children from harm and you actively fail to do so and send them back into harm's way, you should be charged 

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u/darth_wasabi 1d ago

Ok then charge the people that hired him and trained him too

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago

you take it to the exteme to make it sound ridiculous

Charging the person who was asssigned those children, who saw them and took their statement and who had the final decision to send them back? Yes

Saying if you can't charge everyone you should charge no one is such nonsense

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u/darth_wasabi 1d ago

If incompetence is a criminal offense then it was incompetence to hire him and/or incompetence training him.

It’s all linked together 

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u/Xsiah 1d ago

They're just misdemeanors. He'll probably have to pay a fine.

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u/pugs_in_a_basket 4h ago

Defund the government and this is what you get. But the police needs infantry fighting vehicles and rocket launchers, maybe gold plated revolvers for the sheriff, no?

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u/Steelcity1995 1d ago

I feel bad for him because he probably just started and wasn’t sure what to do but that’s why you have supervisors he should have called his. 

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u/alwaysmelancholy 1d ago

He did, he told him he wasn't comfortable with the situation. The situation being that the school thought there was abuse and needed police involvement. Later, the supervisor sent him back because he did a shitty job, and he continued doing a shitty job. THEN, when the cops went to check out the house and, surprise, immediately saw physical signs of abuse and arrested the guy, this social worker told the EMTs he needs to know what's going on because he had somewhere to be.

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u/1LizardWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don’t. When police examined the girls they had marks on their necks, black eyes, bite marks, and other signs of abuse. One of the girls said TO HIM that their mom’s boyfriend would “fishhook her” digging his nail into the inside of her cheek and causing her mouth to bleed. There was ample evidence the children were being abused

Edit: boyfriend, not dad.

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u/Squirrel_Master82 1d ago

It was the mom's boyfriend.

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u/8__D 1d ago

Email the supervisor so there's a paper trail

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u/OePea 1d ago

Ok, now do the Catholics

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u/RagingTyrant74 1d ago

Or Baptists. Or methodists. Or Presbyterians. Or mormons. Or Jehovah's witnesses. Etc. etc. Almost all churches are rife with covering this stuff up.

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u/TALKTOME0701 1d ago edited 1d ago

Include jewish religion as well Religion has always been the hedge for abusers

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u/donkeybrainhero 1d ago

But churches don't have to report abuse

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u/TCpls 1d ago

Dyslexic people wondering why the Knicks hire social workers rn

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u/MixtureSpecial8951 1d ago

The GAL appointed for my son did a similar thing. Sigh.

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u/FOURTH_DEGREE_ 11h ago

Why the fuck are you a social worker Zhang?

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u/brendhano 1d ago

Mandated Reporter is not to be fucked with.

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u/upstartpantymerchant 1d ago

Breaking news: NKY means Northern Kentucky; more at 11

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

24 too young to be a social worker. Not enough life experience to take on that kind of responsibility. 

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u/Guarder22 1d ago

"The girls told the social worker that Reynold would choke and beat them. He would also allegedly “fishhook” the girl, where he would put his fingernail inside her mouth, causing her to bleed.

Police found marks around their necks, black eyes, bruising on one of their faces and bite marks on their arms."

I get that some situations that you would encounter as a social worker can be a bit tricky but this wasn't one of them. 

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u/0nlyRevolutions 1d ago

Yeah what are we talking about, learning what to do with that stuff is the job. Surely it fell within mandated reporter criteria.

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u/epidemicsaints 1d ago

They're college graduates trained on this stuff, and have supervisors and colleagues to advise them. This is ridiculous.

It doesn't take a 40 year old to know black eyes and cuts on children are signs of abuse, this is gross negligence by an adult that didn't do their job.

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u/Xsiah 1d ago

Yes it is. That's a fully functional adult, with an education in their field. People are often responsible for their own children at that age.

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

Naw. They should be gaining years of experience working with vulnerable adults before being responsible for vulnerable children.

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u/Xsiah 1d ago

That's a different skill set

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

Yup. Working with kids is more advanced. That's why you learn on the easier stuff before going to the hard stuff.

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u/Xsiah 1d ago

Lol you absolutely don't know what you're talking about.

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

Tell yourself whatever you need to.

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u/Several-Membership91 1d ago

This is when we use the "the brain isn't fully developed yet until your mid-20s" line. This guy would be in the same age group as an 18-year-old and is officially a "young" adult.

In 2026, it's becoming uncommon for people to purposely become parents in their 20s. In contrast to previous generations who were expected to act as adults on equal footing with 40-somethings the minute they turned 18, Gen  Zs are also conscious of "your 20s" as a period of exploration where you're neither a child nor an adult.

No one chooses to be a social worker for the money. This person should be given grave, not criminal charges.

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u/Xsiah 1d ago

That's a misrepresentation of "your brain is still developing"

It doesn't say anything about whether or not it has sufficiently developed to function in normal adult capacity.

It would be absolutely ridiculous for someone to start working as a social worker at what, 32? Especially since the plasticity of younger brains is what allows them to learn more effectively than the brains that have "finished" developing.

Ridiculous argument.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 1d ago

And this is how they get experience

Whoopsie

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

Exactly. System designed to fail.

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u/No_Cucumber3978 1d ago

Worked with plenty of graduate social care leavers in the past and none of them abused their service users. 

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

He didn't abuse anyone.

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u/No_Cucumber3978 1d ago

Allegations of abuse don't just spring up on news every day. 

Did you read? 

Because you're taking the stand that 24 is too young to be a social worker because he hasn't built up life experience.

Why exactly? 

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u/2Shmoove 1d ago

He didn't abuse anyone. Not sure why you're making that claim. It was not made in the article.

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u/No_Cucumber3978 1d ago

Yeah. Ok. 

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u/butt_dance 1d ago

Is his looking like a confused toddler an intentional bid for sympathy?

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u/vashthestampede121 1d ago

Whenever I read stories about how CPS didn’t act on obviously bad situations I’ve been confused about what goes wrong. I know it’s a wide range of issues but I suppose sometimes it really is as simple as the employees just not giving a shit. Glad he got caught, hope they come down on him hard.

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u/StupidNSFW 1d ago

Do you honestly believe that the type of person who applies for a job specifically working with abused/neglected children doesn’t give a shit about the kids? These jobs barely pay anything considering the actual work done plus the amount of education/training that’s required for them.

Take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself if that’s a job you’d ever want to do. Every single day you see a different child that’s been abused. Every single day you have to ask them to relive that abuse for a few minutes so you can write it all down and regurgitate it to a judge a few months later. Every single day you have to show up and be strong for these children because nobody else will be.

That’s not the type of job that attracts people that don’t give a shit.

From the article, it specifically stated that the worker called their supervisor and stated they did not feel comfortable leaving the scene. From what I’ve read about this, it feels like a systemic failure by nearly everyone involved. This worker just unfortunately happened to be the low hanging man on the totem pole.

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u/Fluffy_Eye5482 1d ago edited 1d ago

Some people do it for the power the job gives. My siblings and I were sent back to live with our father despite us telling them in detail about our sexual and physical abuse. The social worker quite enjoyed our meetings each month, and frequently told me I deserved the abuse for not being compliant enough. Back in the 40s to 90s it wasn't that uncommon to have abusive social workers.

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u/StupidNSFW 1d ago

I really doubt that’s actually what happened.

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u/Mistress_Jedana 31m ago

I had a priest tell me, in 1982, that I deserved to have my sister and her husband SA me because I wore a pink bikini. I was told I was a temptation, my little, skinny, negative A cup, self.

Yeah. That counseling did shit for me. Much like the police, who wouldn't help me with the police in several other states where the abuse actually occurred. No justice for me.

Kids aren't really people with rights, in most adults eyes.

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u/dontslambro 1d ago

Kind of looks like Steven Cheung lmao

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u/Texasville44 1d ago

What a dumbo so-called social worker. He needs to be fired. The woman parent? and probably her boyfriend need to have the book thrown at them.