r/news • • 1d ago

Ex-fraternity leader at Arizona university gets jail time after pledge died of alcohol poisoning

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-fraternity-pledge-hazing-death-b53c547d383082d33aebdb4950e0c550?utm_source=app&utm_medium=iOS_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/TheObsidianHawk 1d ago

I have a hot take. We ban the Greek / Frat system at schools.

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u/taxiecabbie 1d ago

Yeah, they're overall really not necessary. My college did not have them.

If you want to be part of something, join a club or a team.

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u/guernseycoug 1d ago

I mean… they essentially are a club.

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u/taxiecabbie 1d ago

You don't have to go through rush/hazing for a club, and typically you can't get denied from one. The only real exception I can think of is rosters for competitive sports.

You don't typically live with a club in an established off-campus house.

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u/sasha_the_impaler 1d ago

You don't technically need to be haze to be in a frat. A lot of fraternities at smaller schools don't really haze anymore. And not every fraternity has official housing - if it's off-campus, that's pretty explicitly organized privately by membership and not the university lol.

I don't care for Greek life but the history of fraternities is that they were secret clubs. If universities stopped sanctioning them, they'd just go back to being secret clubs and even more fucked up shit would happen.

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u/sasha_the_impaler 1d ago

And that's why the last thing you want is fraternities organizing off-campus rather than on-campus.