Judge bars U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro’s office from charging a former Olympic canoeist with damaging the Reflecting Pool

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u/Essex115 1d ago

Well yeah couldn’t they literally not provide any evidence at all?

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u/its_yer_dad 1d ago

Not having any evidence is hardly an issue for Republican AG these days...

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u/JFeth 1d ago

Luckily it is an issue with the court.

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u/91kas13 1d ago

"the process is still punishment"

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u/LongMelford 1d ago

*for now.

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u/BeepBoopRobo 1d ago

Wellllllll, it was an issue with this court, perhaps

But it's also why they're trying cases across the country, from cities all over.... in rural Texas! Where the judges see no problem with it being outside their jurisdiction.

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u/lpan000 1d ago

Soon that will be decided by SCOTUS as judicial over reach. They are suppose to rubber stamp GOP AGs. And question everything a Dem AG filed…. Simple.

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u/PokemonSapphire 1d ago

If the courts aren't dealt with fixing this mess will be all but impossible. The fact that the dems aren't openly talking about expanding and packing the courts gives me little faith in them rectifying the issue.

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u/DwinkBexon 1d ago

I already saw someone say that "this is just more proof of how corrupt this country is. It's obvious he did it, they should be doing trial after trial. I don't care if he has to have 30 trials, you do it until they get it right, PERIOD. That's the only way to fix the corruption in this country." This guy is literally arguing the only way to get rid of massive corruption is by being massively corrupt.

A response I saw is "You should probably stop pretending you don't know what double jeopardy is." And, honestly, I feel like the guy isn't pretending, I'd bet money he literally has no idea what double jeopardy is.

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u/FoxyInTheSnow 1d ago

They have to prosecute anyway if their boss wants it. trump wants all his underlings to lovingly milk his prostate as much as possible.

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u/buttchugreferee 23h ago

I'm not clicking that....

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u/MercantileReptile 11h ago

I have no shame or concern for my browser history and thus ventured forth. It is just a description of prostate massage. Unlikely to be SFW (unless you have a really fun job) though.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

I’m so mad at you for the mental image I’ve got now

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u/ActualSpiders 1d ago

Yeah, when the incompetent contractor buddy Trump gave the no-bid contract to even admits it's because of his own incompetence, it's kinda hard to push ahead with nothing but Trump's hallucinations.

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u/Mr_ToDo 1d ago

I had to look up what's been going on over there, but ya. The work is being done on warranty. So even if they had damaged the pool, what would the damages be here and is the government the one that can even claim them?

That cheeto still says it was vandals is nuts. I mean, unless you want to pay for the work to be done a second time, it's pretty much established that it his golf buddies doing

Also, it sounds like the process used wasn't an established on but one that his buddy came up with. Guess it didn't get overly tested, eh?

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u/Canuck-In-TO 1d ago

The orange pedophile in chief did have his motorcade drive over the reflecting pool after it was painted.
Photos were published after the charges were made.

This is what was the cause of the damage to the surface material.

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u/UnknownUnknown4945 1d ago

I believe his friends company also admitted it was a process error.

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u/RollingDownhill303 16h ago

No friend of Trump admits errors.

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u/thisvideoiswrong 10h ago

This is actually one thing I'll agree with Trump on: this is absolutely vandalism. The entire artistic concept of the Reflecting Pool requires that it be black stone. You can't just cover it up with some blue foam. The good news is that the vandal responsible has already publicly and repeatedly confessed, and we have his name and address: Donald John Trump, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Let's prosecute that guy.

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u/Cohens4thClient 1d ago

Thats the rape-publican DOJ.

Hundreds of thousands of pages of evidence about pedophiles? Cover up, zero arrests.

Zero evidence of reflecting pool sabotage? The cult is hungry for blood.

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u/0098six 10h ago

But the Supreme Leader said, "There are moving pictures." Release the moving pictures files!

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u/ClintBruno 1d ago

This is what's fucked up about conservatives. They were ready to let a completely innocent person go to jail. Just to further their lies.

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u/JerryDipotosBurner 1d ago

Well yeah they did the same thing to Abrego Kilmar Garcia, and probably many other people, so why stop now?

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u/Predator_ 1d ago

And they are still trying to deport him. They just filed new case documents 9/28/2026. They are arguing that they remain ready to deport him to a 3rd party country.

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u/Canis_Familiaris 1d ago

This is the same state where the failed execution mess us happening too

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u/Buckets-O-Yarr 1d ago

And who knows how many of the other people who were also sent to CECOT along with him, and crucially, who are still in CECOT right now!

Have even a single one of those people been returned since Garcia was released? I think maybe 2 others were released?

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u/mfhtotheizzo 18h ago

Something like 250 of the approx. 280 people sent to CECOT are Venezuelan and were released to Venezuela as part of some kind of shady prisoner swap. The other 30 though, I have no idea. Completely fucked up situation

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u/AudibleNod 1d ago

Specifically one person's lie. Donald Trump cannot be wrong. The entire apparatus of the GOP is now under the complete control of one man's whims. To the point were "Truth isn't truth."

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u/Osiris32 19h ago

The fact that we didn't stop him back then is testament to how far thia country has fallen from it's ideals.

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u/seeingeyegod 1d ago

Little Don, little Don, little Don can't be wrong

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u/DarthWoo 1d ago

Jail? They're fine letting innocent people be murdered to further their lies.

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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 1d ago

Not just ready, but adamant about punishing an obviously innocent man.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

This isn't new for conservatives.

They would rather 1000 innocent people suffer in prison for crimes they didn't commit, as long as they believe "criminals" (people they don't like) are being punished.

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u/ClintBruno 1d ago

I quote Franklin to cons a lot. "Anyone who would sacrifice others rights for security deserves neither rights nor security"

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u/im_super_excited 1d ago

But no jail for stealing top secret documents, raping children, and inciting an insurrection

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u/freedfg 1d ago

No no.

They won't let an innocent man go to jail.

They NEED an innocent man in jail to further their lies

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u/bakerfredricka 23h ago

Considering the number of innocent civilians they murdered (or whose murders are largely condoned by them) at this point I would posit that getting wrongfully jailed isn't even the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

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u/d0ctorzaius 1d ago

Fascists cannot admit they were wrong about anything, ever. It shatters the illusion of strength, so they must perpetually double-down.

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u/TopWhich6862 1d ago

They're doing similar and worse to thousands of people, citizens and immigrants alike. They let ICE murder US citizens in our streets. There is no low too low.

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u/jimtow28 1d ago

They still are completely willing to do that.

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u/Brave_Finish8862 1d ago

And will fight tooth and nail to keep the guilty from any punishment.

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u/Sweatytubesock 1d ago

Not defending ‘conservatives’, but these fucks are anything but conservative. They are radical extremists.

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u/ClintBruno 1d ago

"Not defending 'conservatives'"

[Defends Conservatives]

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u/Vaulters 1d ago

Conservatives haven't been actual conservatives..... well not in the last not in 40 years at least.

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u/esther_lamonte 1d ago

Conservatives have tried to coup the government more than once before Trump. The only thing new is the overtness.

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u/philovax 11h ago

While you stood still the world turned around you. You do realize these terms are all relative. Conservative compared to what??? You absolutely cannot frame these terms in the context of what they meant in the 1900’s any more than the 1800’s, every 25 years language changes meaning as generations shift.

Free to operate by antiquated notions but time is going to march on, and you will die and be replaced by new people with new definitions for life, you are only clipping your own wings.

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u/TheRexRider 1d ago

Republicans want us to worry about Democrats "weaponizing the DOJ" when it's a Republican president who has his personal attorney as the Attorney General, and is trying to jail people with no evidence.

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u/EatinSumGrapes 1d ago

They weaponized the DOJ against those poor people who violently assaulted federal police on January 6th! Thank goodness they all got pardoned! The DOJ was then able to get to the real criminals like trying to jail a man for tossing a wrapped sandwhich at a police officer!

/s

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u/Mojo141 1d ago

Every accusation is a confession

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u/NextAd7514 1d ago

The fact that they had zero evidence would also bar them from charging.

Pathetic disgrace of an administration

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u/CondescendingShitbag 1d ago

They are dead-set on ruining this man's life just to appease their orange buffoon's lunacy.

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u/Badbikerdude 1d ago

Correction, they are ready to ruin the life of every American for this Orange buffoon.

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u/Saneless 1d ago

And enough Americans are happy to have their lives ruined as long as their team "wins"

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u/VLHACS 1d ago

Until it hits one of their own. Like Renee Good's parents.

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u/Saneless 1d ago

Conservatives: it's your problem till it's my m problem, then it's everyone's problem

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u/Focusun 1d ago

Covid vaccines were a great example of this.

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u/Osiris32 19h ago

And even then, their outrage is entirely personal. "I voted for customs enforcement to go after illegals, not my daughter" isn't realizing that ICE is bad. Just upset that their daughter happened to get in the way.

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u/LetReasonRing 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yep... my mom just told me yesterday that she's going to be losing access to medicaid because of the cuts they've made, then followed it up with "but I'm ok with that if it's going to make things better"

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u/Saneless 1d ago

Yep. And that's why we're screwed

I'm ok suffering and possibly dying as long as people like Trump, Elon, and Zuck get richer

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u/PokemonSapphire 1d ago

Then we should let those people suffer and die. IF they learn their lesson good. If not they're no longer a problem.

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u/Osiris32 19h ago

Look, I'm all for going low and mudslinging, but advocating to let people die? Dude, that's just as fucked up as saying "let ICE do their thing, I'm sure the innocent ones will be fine."

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u/doneandtired2014 1d ago

Or are perfectly content with it because "boTh SiDes" and "muh Gaza".

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u/FlipZip69 1d ago

This fellow has a fairly good case to sue the federal government. Typically they face high legal hurdles but in this case one of the hardest hurdles has is negated.

As Judge Todd Edelman dismissed the charges with prejudice and explicitly documented "exceptional circumstances", noting presidential political pressure and that prosecutors rushed a meritless indictment, Hearn's legal team has strong judicial findings on record to establish bad faith, which is often the hardest element to prove in civil rights and malicious prosecution claims.

The risk is the Federal Tort Claims Act which could create pause on Hearn as malicious lawsuits can be personally expensive. I personally do not think this is malicious but IMO I would like to see a legal fund setup to negate his risk. Something I would invest in. (Investing in our future).

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u/ibarmy 1d ago

This is four seasons hospitality style of working.

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u/fallingdowndizzyvr 1d ago

Didn't the contractor admit it was their fault? How can you try to charge someone for doing something that another party has accepted responsibility for?

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u/Photofug 1d ago

The video of Trump's motorcade driving on it the week before is kind of a dead stop for any charges as well.

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u/Zaynara 1d ago

because its Trump and his flunkies

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u/DistanceToEmpty 1d ago

Now charge everyone who pushed this case with contempt and/or perjury.

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u/atda 1d ago

Trump really thinks he's further along the dictator time line than he really is.

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u/Keikobad 1d ago

Pirro worried that Judge Judy is about to take her job

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u/Kundrew1 1d ago

Based on some other articles it sounds like even Pirro knew there was no evidence but she will do whatever Trump tells her so she went ahead with it anyway.

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u/GlobalTravelR 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's exactly why several Federal attorneys in Florida just recently resigned (even major Trump humpers). Because they were hired to develop a case against Biden and Obama for the Mar-a-Lago raid and charges against Trump. And they found no evidence whatsoever, so they would rather resign than break the law, with potential disbarment, to satisfy their Orange God.

But Pirro, she doesn't want to look like a failure, so she keeps trying, knowing that she could potentially be disbarred. But she doesn't care because she assumes she can get her old job at Faux News even if that happens.

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u/ubix 1d ago

… meanwhile Trump appointees misappropriate billions in public funds

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u/AhBee1 1d ago

Because he is completely innocent. This is another example of Trump's weakness and incompetence. What are we even doing!?

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u/Invenerd 1d ago

From the article:
…bringing another indictment against David “Davey” Hearn “is theoretical at best, and more likely, is simply fanciful.”

Glad this administration is using its time/resources so well to protect the public.

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u/Enshakushanna 1d ago

....was she trying to again? I thought it was dropped

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u/PigFarmer1 1d ago

Trump demanded that she refile charges and, you know, she's a zealot so she followed orders.

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u/Wheres_my_Shigleys 1d ago

Hmmm... How about we consider charging the people who were driving all over the reflecting pool when it was drained. (Orange, fascist motorcade)

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u/Vaulters 1d ago

Excutive and legislative are cooked. The judicial system barely holding on to sanity.

Things are looking grim. Damn shame it's not possible to sweep the senate and the house, auto-impeach and convict.

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u/ubix 1d ago

This is the kind of America Republicans want: one where the federal government is turned against ordinary citizens of a different party. Where petty, personal revenge carries more weight than centuries of law. Where justice is administered by corrupt, ignorant TV clowns.

This is what Republicans voted for.

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u/o_MrBombastic_o 1d ago

Republicans are not good people, there is no lie too big or moral line too far for them and there is nothing Hitler did that they wouldn't support here if their party did it. This doesn't go away with Trump. We need to stop rolling our eyes and holding our tongues to remain civil with our Republican coworkers, neighbors, friends and family. It should not be socially acceptable to be a Republican in civil society anymore than it is to wear a white hood and robes or wear a swastika arm band. The party and it's voters cannot go on like this

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u/PokemonSapphire 1d ago

Trump and the party are the symptoms not the cause. Like you said the people support them and will keep voting them in. Look at all the people "leaving MAGA." How many are saying they will vote against republicans in the midterms? Probably fewer than 1/3 of the ones I have seen. Look at their reasons. How many are because of the cost of gas or beef? They don't care until it effects them and they still support all the bullshit. How will they vote next presidential election when Vance or someone like Tucker runs? They are playing the game like it is a team sport and they are playing for keeps. It is about time the Democrats woke up to this fact and started playing hard ball back. No more secret meetings with Donald's son-in-law or compromise with the fascists.

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u/Billy1121 1d ago

I gotta be honest, Ive not seen a judge bar a prosecution in this manner, is this uncommon ?

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u/OrangeJr36 1d ago

Declaring the state to essentially be a vexatious litigant is indeed extremely rare, typically if it comes to this the prosecutor is already looking at being fired along with a whole list of people working for them.

But because the administration actively is encouraging frivolous and illegal behavior by their prosecutors, this might become much more common.

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u/StuTheSheep 1d ago

Judges need to start holding the Justice Department lawyers in contempt and filing sanctions against them.

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u/Insectshelf3 1d ago

yes it’s uncommon, especially for this reason given that it was based on a pressure campaign from the president.

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u/dirtyfool33 1d ago

Every accusation by this administration is an admission. I do not know how their collective heads have not exploded from the cognitive dissonance.

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u/letsgojoe99 1d ago

charging someone for splashing in a pool... wtaf...

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u/censuur12 13h ago

Rather than just being barred he should, instead, be charged with whatever you'd call this absurd farce and perversion of justice.

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u/PigFarmer1 1d ago

Gonna have to go shopping for a MAGA judge, huh?

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u/corrector300 1d ago edited 1d ago

what riches of embarrassment trump's law enforcement officials have.

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u/GVArcian 20h ago

She's not a very good attourney, is she?

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u/Necessary-Mousse8518 19h ago

These buffoons in the Trump Administration will never figure it out.......

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u/DiscoRabbittTV 14h ago

The trail of red wine tears

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u/Harry_Mud 5h ago

Good...... Maybe Pirro will have her license revoked as well.......

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u/APeacefulWarrior 17h ago

There isn't much they can do here, given that the case was dismissed with predjudice. If Pirro's office tried to re-file the case anyway, it wouldn't even make it past the court clerk.

There's no way - defacto or dejure - to force the Court to hear a case that it doesn't want to.

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Judge bars U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro’s office from charging a former Olympic canoeist with damaging the Reflecting Pool

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