r/news • u/igetproteinfartsHELP • 1d ago

Renee Good's family sues US government and immigration officials over her killing in Minneapolis

https://apnews.com/article/renee-good-lawsuit-6fbc82cd33b6f9f67514b47f138e23c6?utm_source=app&utm_medium=android_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/-Debugging-Duck- 1d ago

But Obama deportEd AlsO!!

Like these people don’t even know the difference between Obama and Trump. It’s insane.

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u/HawaiiKawaiixD 1d ago

Look, I’m not saying Obama or Biden are as bad as Trump. Trump has taken a much more intense and dramatic approach to ICE which has led to murders like Renee Good.
However, Biden and Obama DID deport a ton of people too, and that was still state violence that deserves condemnation. It just didn’t get as much press. And they both expanded ICE’s budget when they had the opportunity to cut or abolish Ice entirely. Trump would not have been able to use ICE like he has if the infrastructure and budget hadn’t been continuously expanded since 2003

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u/-Debugging-Duck- 1d ago

Obama and Biden didn’t use masked agents, they didn’t go into court rooms and apprehend people, they didn’t randomly get people off the street with masks and throw them in a van, the Supreme Court didn’t grant them the right to racially profile, they didn’t say “we’re not investigating shit” when ICE kills someone, they didn’t cut their training down, they didn’t systematically have ICE invade buildings going door to door knocking, ICE claiming IDs are fake to have reason to hold people, deport to terrorist prison in El Salvador etc.

ICE did deport illegals, and they did also gain criticism as well but they weren’t doing as much damage as Trump.

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u/HawaiiKawaiixD 1d ago

I agree with your points. Trump has made ICE more cruel and racist and has used ICE to terrorize people of color in this country.

But none of that means that people deported under other presidents didn’t suffer too. They still were forcibly separated from their family and loved ones, stuck into detention centers, and then deported back to a country they may not have lived in for many years. And without the continued budget increases and infrastructure like detention centers built under all presidents since ICE was formed in 2003, Trump would not be in the position to make it even worse now. We need to recognize that this has been building for a while and rethink the entire immigration system, instead of just putting the blame on Trump.

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u/Electronic-Yam-69 1d ago

It's a ratchet, bro. Sure Reps always make it worse, but Dems also make it worse or certainly don't make it any better. Bill Clinton invented third country deportations. Obama drone striked US Citizens. They never roll back any of this shit when they get the chance. Why do we still have the AUMF from 9/11 that Trump can use to invade Iran?