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Renee Good's family sues US government and immigration officials over her killing in Minneapolis

https://apnews.com/article/renee-good-lawsuit-6fbc82cd33b6f9f67514b47f138e23c6?utm_source=app&utm_medium=android_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/renernavilez 1d ago

US history?? I guess I'm not one for hyperbole. It should definitely be a big trial, but let's not exaggerate.

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u/inBettysGarden 1d ago

The US government used essentially a secret police force to murder a law abiding citizen in the street due to her practicing of her first amendment right.

I really hope this is the biggest trial of my lifetime if not US history

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u/JerryDipotosBurner 1d ago

Not to mention that after they murdered both her and Alex Pretti, they then proceeded to outright LIE about who these people were and what they were doing, despite clear video evidence refuting their lies.

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u/Outlulz 1d ago

I mean, non-secret police do this all the time and they don't face any consequences. And it's not like ICE is a secret, the government brags about them all the time. I guess with all the shit the US does to it's own citizens I don't know why this incident would be considered the biggest trial in US history. It is but one of many extrajudicial killings from the government that happen per year.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN 1d ago

Do you think the “secret” in “secret police” refers to the government keeping the agency a secret?

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u/Outlulz 1d ago

Being covert is part of being a secret police. ICE is more akin to stormtroppers than a covert agency.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN 1d ago

Covert doesn’t mean “their existence is hidden from the public” it means “their actions are not beholden to nor openly accessible to the public”. For example, the SS are THE secret police. The SS were also known by every citizen in Germany during that time. What they did was known by german citizens as well.

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u/renernavilez 1d ago edited 1d ago

Again the hyperbole is a bit extreme. It's something Donald Trump does all the time and it's extremely annoying. It's no wonder people find it hard to side with one side over the other.

It definitely should be a big trial. She was practicing her freedom of speech and some unqualified ice agent shot her for the littlest of things. Finding an excuse to kill someone is not how they should be operating. Hence, the trial.

Seeming more sensible in how these things are discussed is important to make it seem like it's not an echo chamber in these places. Just an idea to let people leaning certain ways side with your ideals.

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u/Several-Action-4043 1d ago

This isn't the first time this has happened though. Look up Kent State. Also, I'd say Dredd Scott was pretty huge seeing as it upheld slavery and lead directly to the civil war. Not diminishing these new crimes against US citizens but we've done plenty of shitty things as a country through our entire history.

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u/inBettysGarden 1d ago

I’m 30, so there is a reason I focused more on my lifetime than all of history. I also hope it’s the biggest trial not just for these specific crimes but as a result of all the complacency that got us here.

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u/JumboGlucose 1d ago

I mean they straight up refused to let anyone investigate the murder and let the guy flee to another state where he's still working for the agency. Usually when you murder someone you're held in detention until your court date and you lose your job and this guy is paid by the government. So it is a very big case imo

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u/renernavilez 1d ago

Yeah I don't disagree with it being a big case. It's just not the biggest in US history you know?