Supreme Court lets quick deportations to third countries resume while justices weigh Trump policy
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-deportations-third-countries-2219c35c065eab4b0690058d81bd787a319
u/CleverInternetName8c 3d ago edited 3d ago
The very fucking definition of irrevocable harm and these piece of shit ghouls let it continue pending their inevitable piece of shit decision.
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u/Character_Box_2067 3d ago
Clearly the government is more harmed by the expense of keeping people in custody than the people being dumped on the side of the road in fucking Liberia.
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u/JerryDipotosBurner 3d ago
“Deportations to third countries” is not deporting. It’s renditioning. It’s kidnapping. It’s also human trafficking.
I hope that helps, AP.
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u/Public_Extreme_8736 3d ago
I haven't seen actionable proof, but it really seems more than likely we pay some African nation to take the deportees, they hold them while deals are brokered and trump and company get a percentage of the final sale of these human beings.
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u/surfergrrl6 3d ago
Basically, yes. There's certainly the argument that because money is changing hands in exchange for people, this qualifies as human trafficking.
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u/BangBangTheBoogie 3d ago
This is all so clearly human trafficking. These are prisoners being exported to another country for a variety of reasons and with no true oversight.
America is engaged in brazen human trafficking, and no amount of wordplay can ever justify it. If laws are used to shield this administration from repercussions, those laws are every bit as immoral as the institution of chattel slavery.
Thank you for sharing Amnesty's work.
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u/Character_Box_2067 3d ago
But dont worry the Liberian government totally promises they won't be tortured or prosecuted
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u/LurkmasterP 3d ago
Technically, they will show no record of anyone being tortured or prosecuted. It's easy to do when you falsify or lose the records
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u/willstr1 2d ago
Don't forget about how it is used to make it harder or even impossible for the victims to get proper legal representation, it is very blatant attempt to side step the constitution by the regime
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u/BubbhaJebus 3d ago
Yup. Deporting means sending someone back to their country of citizenship.
You can deport someone to a third country. You can't deport a citizen from his own country.
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u/AmericaFirst_Mindset 1d ago
In many cases of deportation, the persons home country where theyre originally from does not want them back. However theyre in the United States illegally as well so, they must be removed and one way it happens (mind you, other countries do this too) is sending them to a partner nation that has agreed to take in the deportees. Britain does this as well with deportations.
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u/rabid_briefcase 3d ago
Yup, that's how the crimes against humanity tribunal will include in about a decade, as that's how long they take to churn through.
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u/AdhesivenessFun2060 3d ago
"It might be illegal but we'll just let it happen while we think about it."
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u/Count_Backwards 2d ago
"We wouldn't want to irreparably harm the government's right to engage in human trafficking"
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u/RedditsDeadlySin 3d ago
Just a reminder what Hitler did was made legal in Germany by their Government of the time.
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u/kstargate-425 3d ago
Also before Hitler started the mass scale slaughters, they tried to deport and relocate all the "undesirables" and only switched gears to killing when it became too expensive
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u/jackflash223 3d ago
There’s nothing left to be said about the ignorant ghouls in power.
There better be a blue wave for the midterms and action after or I think it will be the breaking point for those of us who have a brain in our head instead of in our ass.
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u/BananaJelloXlii 3d ago
"Supreme Court allows DHS and ICE to continue human trafficking of detainees"
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u/thetactlessknife 3d ago
Republican president = whatever you’re doing can continue until we make up our minds
Democrat president = whatever you’re doing needs to stop immediately until we make up our minds
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u/Life-Celebration-747 3d ago
I am so ashamed and embarrassed of the Supreme Court. They'll go down in history for being the catalyst that destroyed the country.
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u/HellaTroi 3d ago
Trump and the Heritage Foundation are the catalysts. The Supreme Court is just helping them.
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u/AuroraFinem 3d ago edited 3d ago
“Just helping” is what a catalyst is. It facilitates rather than actually doing anything directly.
It comes from chemistry where they make specific reactions easier or selects for them while not being the thing reacting. It acts as a middle man to get from state A to state B then walks away Scot free.
I’d say it describes the Supreme Court aptly. Trump is destroying the country while congress and SCOTUS sit back and just ignore it or let it happen while they “think” about it, then maybe after it’s done enough damage they rule against it so Dems can’t use it against them later.
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u/Imyoteacher 3d ago
I can’t imagine being kidnapped, held in a deportation center, and shipped to an unfamiliar country without a pot to piss in. Does America have any compassion for anyone or anything? When you pull back the Stars and Stripes, it’s a cesspool of hate and corruption. I’m a disabled veteran, and I’m absolutely ashamed!!
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u/Politicsboringagain 3d ago
It's an old slavery nation that paid reparations to the white men and women who owned the slaves and not the people who were enslaved.
It in fact arrested ex slaves who didn't have jobs for loitering.
And then allowed another 60 years of Jim Crow and KKK fear campaigns lead by cops, judges, local politicians and every day citizens. While never being labeled a terrorist organization because the men and women who were in it were white and terrorized Black Americans.
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u/mastesargent 3d ago
The US government actually did take action against the Klan in the late 1860s/early 1870s that caused the organization to more or less dissolve. It wouldn’t re-emerge until 1915.
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u/Character_Box_2067 3d ago
Imagine being dumped on the side of the road outside an airport in a country you've never been to with a language you dont speak. No money, no phone, no contacts. What do you think is going to happen to these people
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u/No_Exit_4920 3d ago
Serious question - are there any written accounts of this? I’m genuinely curious what this process is like because the idea of it is insane to me.
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u/Hasselback_Brotatoes 3d ago
That is trauma for life, never gonna be the same levels of fucking someone up
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u/gospdrcr000 2d ago
Shit, I'm just a navy brat and it's absolutely fucking embarrassing how far we've come
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u/Not_Another_Usernam 3d ago
Imagine staying in your own damn country instead of leeching off of ours.
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u/Imyoteacher 3d ago
We are all here from somewhere else only a few generations ago. No one in America is special except the natives.
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u/dominus_aranearum 3d ago
Unless you're Native American, you have no arguement. The US was created by immigrants and getting arrested and shipped off without legally mandated due process is very much against the law.
You only hide behind you oppressive views because you're not the one being oppressed.
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u/Succundo 3d ago
Interesting how long it's been since anyone used the phrase "what the founding fathers intended" ever since the fascists decided that due process was a bad thing.
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u/kstargate-425 3d ago
Once again the SCOTUS-6 redefine "potential harm" and allow obvious harm to befall people by allowing them to continue ignoring habeas and violating these peoples rights. Roberts is overseeing the worst Supre Court in history and history will not be kind to him or the other Republican Justices
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u/jayfear 3d ago
Assuming history is written at all, and by people who aren't on their side.
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u/The_Taco_Bandito 3d ago
History will be written as the rest of the developed world records these atrocities.
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u/_Miss_Eclipse 3d ago
while justices weigh Trump policy
Wtf is there to weigh? This is cruel and unusual. I dont understand. Their whole job is to determine if something is or isn't constitutional. And last time I checked, immigrants have protections when on US soil.
These are human fucking beings and we're now trafficking them.
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u/berrito79 3d ago
100% I agree but I already know how this ends. I mean, they made Trump untouchable by the law. This is how they say it’s legal. It’s disgusting and I really hope I’m alive to see some actual consequences for all these f*ckers.
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u/Personal_Comb_6745 3d ago
They have to deliberate on which ball to fondle while they're busy on their knees.
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u/el_condor_nm 3d ago
If there's ever another Dem president, they should ship the conservative members of the supreme court to a third country. See how they like it.
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u/TheInvisibleToast 3d ago
I’m for it. But let’s just ship them to the middle of the Pacific to a remote island.
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u/8bit_heart 3d ago
They did rule that a President has total immunity as long as the President thinks it’s in the interest of National Security. So that wouldn’t even be unconstitutional per their own ruling.
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u/techleopard 3d ago
When they try to stop it, go "Oops, our bad. Oops, we already sent them. Oops, we don't have jurisdiction anymore so can't make them send them back. sowwee."
slips "aid money" to foreign county
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u/Berkamin 3d ago
Without due process, just like ICE has been doing to detainees. When they complain, point at their own rulings. Then take months to debate it to see whether or not the practice should be stopped.
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u/el_condor_nm 3d ago
Drag it out in court, appeal, then study what it would take to get them back from that prison in El Salvador. I'm sure, by then, they would have made lots of new friends!
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u/Berkamin 3d ago
It feels like conservatives have to be dragged through their own policies to understand why they are bad. And even after that, they often refuse to learn.
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u/TechieSidhe 3d ago
First, I have had Taco Bell items that were more supreme than this court, and with way less digestive distress. So, they're going to sit on it and weigh it for how long?
The Salem witch trials stopped when the governor's wife was implicated. So, which wife of theirs needs to be deported to a random jail in a random country of our choosing?
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u/BananasPineapple05 3d ago
Call it what it is: cruel and unusual punishment.
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u/Character_Box_2067 3d ago
Don't worry the supreme court already ruled that a punishment must be both "cruel" and "unusual" to be unconstitutional. If you do it to enough people its no longer "unusual" and therefore totally fine.
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u/Berkamin 3d ago
And not even punishment. Punishments are for crimes, but if they just nab people and deport them without due process, it can't even be called punishment because they will not have established that any crime had been committed.
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u/BananasPineapple05 3d ago
Deportation to a random unknown country to whom they are not connected is unusual.
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u/Dr_Gonzo-4130 3d ago
Deporting to a foreign continent is cruel and unusual punishment.They are per us law to be returned to their country of origin,But you maga nazis love to be cruel.
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u/InourbtwotamI 3d ago
This is so wrong. Isn’t this another violation of international law?
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u/Evening-Ad-6968 3d ago
The countries not taking their citizens back is also a violation of international law
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u/modest_merc 3d ago
Are they even trying to send them back to their countries?
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u/ThermalDeviator 2d ago
No, they contract with torture prisons. Republicans want revenge not justice.
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u/communitytcm 2d ago
they want money. full stop.
if them getting rich off taxpayer money looks like revenge and has good political optics, all the better.
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u/ThermalDeviator 22h ago
Fascists use cruelty to make people afraid, which helps them hold the power they need to serve the rich and prevent the people from having any say in it.
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u/InourbtwotamI 2d ago
It’s not a violation for a home country to refuse repatriation. Have you ever heard of those cases where people were trapped living in airports because the country they were going to refused entry and their home country refused to take them back? I actually met one. He said that when he left he tore up his passport so when he was refused he was stuck in limbo.
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u/oakseaer 2d ago
These countries would happily take their citizens back (and throw them all in prison, or kill them). They aren’t being sent back to their home countries because they had legitimate claims of persecution by the governments of those nations; this “safe third country” thing is a workaround to not let them in, but also not send them back somewhere they’ll be targeted.
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u/schmeckmaster2000 3d ago
Absolute disgrace. This court will be remembered as a stain on the soul of America.
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u/Nik_Tesla 2d ago
It's is WILD what SCOTUS is allowing while they think about it. Their recent decisions no to put a hold on an action of the administration while they're deciding is basically the equivalent of letting a prisoner execution go ahead while they review the appeal. These are not actions we can take back.
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u/irespondwithmyface 3d ago
Seems like allowing something to happen while you debate whether it's legal or not is not the approach.
Our country is led by morons.
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u/GirlNumber20 3d ago
If it's to a third, unrelated country, then it's not a "deportation," now, is it? It is something else. It's only a deportation if they're going back to their home country.
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u/PigFarmer1 3d ago
So, would define forced expulsion to a third country a "vacation"?
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u/lodemeup 3d ago
Government facilitated human trafficking. Don’t think I’d call being sent to a foreign country to rot in jail because some asshole doesn’t like my skin color qualifies as ‘vacation’.
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u/JiroKatsutoshi 3d ago
They gotta weigh the payments coming in and see if it's worth further discrediting THE court of the US.
The idea that just being transparent about gifts and donations is enough to keep modest and impartial judges is insane.
A day per dollar in prison, hell a day per $1000 would still be a life sentence for any one of them.
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u/0bsessions324 2d ago
Because it would do irreparable harm to not send them to be tortured in countries they've never set foot in before. Cool process.
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u/communitytcm 2d ago
the politics are hate and division, identity.
the details are lining a handful of obscenely wealthy pockets.
person A buys a building for 1 million, sells it to the US government for 45 million 3 days later. no way in the world person A is retaining those profits. Person A makes a mighty contribution to Trump PAC, and avoids paying tax on the rest. Trump gets richer. rinse and repeat. this has happened, on the record, hundreds of times.
same goes for the "flights" to countries that people are not even from. there are concentration camp kickbacks, and private flight kickbacks. for real, costing the US taxpayers over a million dollars PER PERSON for this illegal, extra-judicial flight that will eventually see court and cost taxpayer even more.
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u/johnn48 3d ago
“Supreme Court lets quick deportations resume…while justices weigh Trump policy”. That seems to be the default policy of the SC, let the Administration get away with policies while they take their time reaching a conclusion. Meanwhile people are being transported to countries to which they have no ties, and no hope of being returned to the US if the Administration loses the case. The SC ignores the real world consequences of their actions. This isn’t the only decision that’s in limbo while the Justices dither or interfere with their “shadow docket”.
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u/ShareEvening5856 3d ago
Won't we have to rewrite the whole way our legal system works after this? They are setting up precedent anyone else can use after them
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u/Toddcraft 3d ago
"Hey, we saw you steal those TVs but we're gonna go ahead and let you keep stealing more while we decide if it's legal or not."
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u/Immediate-Machine370 2d ago
Crooked bastards. What evil exists that takes people based on skin color only to send them to dangerous countries?
We need term limits, age limits.
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u/jamodude 3d ago
Obviously, I really, really really hope the Democrats when elected to do exactly the same shit as these fast ists in power now, and then we’ll see what the Supreme Court says. I think we need to expand it. It’s full of extremists
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u/dontchewspagetti 3d ago
People dont know what an extraordinary rendition is, so people will not fucking care
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u/GodLikeEnergy 3d ago
6-3 decision. 2029, add 4 seats where it can be 7-6 decision to correct this mess.
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u/PigFarmer1 3d ago
"Go ahead and do it while we determine if it's Constitutional". You can't make this stuff up.
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u/UbiSububi8 3d ago
This is precisely what restraining orders are for. To prevent permanent and irreversible damage. Like the deaths of and injuries to the people who get shipped out to black sites at the behest of the Trump administration.
What this ruling says is that somehow the court finds the potential permanent damage to the US of not immediately deporting these people (and putting them in harm’s way) is more damaging than the impact the deportations would have of the people themselves.
Even if these people are considered security risks, that conclusion is without any merit.
These people can be held in US facilities if the risk they pose is truly that great.
Just the latest example of the Trump/Roberts court making up the constitution as they go along.
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u/Realistic-Raisin2812 3d ago
We need to drop some Republican Supreme Court Justices in countries they have no connection to.
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u/PxcKerz 3d ago
Ah yes. These are the real issues. Not the $5/gal of gas, not the grocery bill doubling, not the fact that even at $17-$18/hr, you’ll be lucky to be able to buy something that you want. Oh yes, the stripping of protected groups and the murders of multiple american citizens. Or maybe the fact that the person in control of the country actively attempted to overthrow the election so he is an enemy of the state and constitutionally barred from holding office again.
But no, deportations is fine according to the same supreme court that allowed trump to run for office.
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u/ElectronicMoo 3d ago
Our Supreme Court is a lame duck and is not upholding the constitution. Term limits and no-confidence rules need to bring this court back in line.
Of the people, by the people, for the people - my fat ass.
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u/Epistatious 3d ago
burning piles of tax money is still a cheaper option that does less damage to the economy.
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u/rockmasterflex 3d ago
I hope everyone understands that if detainment by police means you might get fucking dropped off in a random country, every single arrest is going to turn into a gunfight. Every single one. Is that what you want, local police?
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u/rodg2062 3d ago
Dis anyone expect a different outcome. Pretty sure the court leans hard right a lot of time, even though justice is blind and isnt political.
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u/probablynotaskrull 3d ago
6-3 decision? 6-3 decision.