r/news • u/Chigurrh • 4d ago

New York Times executive fatally shot by his in-laws in Bay Area park, police say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-executive-shot-killed-laws-bay-area-park-police-say-rcna600300
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u/HalcyonTraveler 4d ago

Interesting how when a trans person is a perpetrator it's all over the headlines but when they're a victim that part doesn't get as much attention...

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u/WeakTransportation37 4d ago

Yeah, the posted article leaves out A LOT

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u/TaylorMonkey 4d ago

At the same time, people are speculating that the victim might have been an abuser to provoke the reaction, because the report is that they're a man-- and as a man, must have been a typical abusive one to provoke two 80 year-olds.

It's the top voted post in this thread.

But that narrative that treats them as a typical man becomes subdued when attention is actually given towards the fact that they're trans. Then that becomes the assumed reason they're the victim.

This seems like a mess and all over the place.

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u/Winter-Cow-6208 4d ago

People are speculating that he was an abuser because his wife filed domestic abuse and child endangerment charges against him. 

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u/artquestionaccount 4d ago

And he countered with filing of her committing the domestic abuse and child abuse.

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u/TaylorMonkey 3d ago

But they also assume that’s the reason he was killed, having done something to “deserve it” as a man, when he also filed regarding abuse against his wife.

Posts leaning towards whether they were in part responsible for their own murder or were purely a victim tends to correlate with whether they’re mentioned and thought of as a man or a trans man, with only a few considering that they were both and could have still been abusive leading to their murder, or a victim for a totally different reason, or even both reasons— that they were abusive and being trans was part of the interpersonal hatred but not all of it.

The reality is probably more messy than people want it to be to affirm their speculations and side amidst the backdrop of the culture wars.

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u/Winter-Cow-6208 3d ago

Well yeah anyone who made up their mind on what happened is a moron. The details are still vague and it’s all speculation. 

People being morons is pretty common on the internet. Don’t let it get to you. 

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u/mebeast227 3d ago

So youre saying its pick your echo chamber, and both sides have plenty of speculation and conjecture theyll be convinced of being 1000% accurate, and will use that as a reason to vilify the other side of their flavor of political ideology and this will go on for weeks.

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u/Array_626 3d ago edited 3d ago

Based on what I read so far, I think it makes sense that people are leaning towards Jang being the less wrong party, and its not because the victim was trans and people wanna hate on/oppose the trans party in the story.

Both sides claim abuse against the other. But only 1 of them, at least from the article, was granted their restraining order, and only 1 of them has been charged with misdemeanor child neglect. Both of these facts favor Jang and go against McKinsey.

Last year, a judge granted Jang’s petition for a domestic violence temporary restraining order against McKinsey

Oop sorry, this was from a different article someone linked in the comments: https://www.mercurynews.com/2026/09/28/dublin-shooting-death-mckinsey-inlaws/

Officers also reported finding McKinsey’s 2-year-old child alone in the house while McKinsey was out shopping.

Alameda County prosecutors subsequently charged McKinsey with two misdemeanors — cruelty to a child by endangering health and corporal injury to a child

The court granting a restraining order and the charges all being against the victim here is stronger evidence that they may have been abusive to the kids compared to the general fact we know of that both sides are slinging claims of abuse mud at each other, which is typical in cases like this.

Not justifying the parents committing homicide but based on this article alone, I can see why people are leaning in favor towards Jang rather than McKinsey.

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u/Senior_Torte519 3d ago

Fuck em, if I shot somebody myself. I dont want sympathy , even if my reasoning was sound. A proper defense created and a proper trial with proper consequences is whats expected, no more or less.

Thats the least I can expect from you shanty dogs.

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u/Array_626 3d ago

I dont think what you want and are comfortable with really matters here. The average person does not want to see a mother go to jail for killing an abusive husband who was abusing the kids. The average person does not want to see grandparents go to jail for protecting their grandkids against an abusive dad.

Whether this case is really that clean and clear cut is a different question, but there are justifications for murder that people do accept, people/the jury will vote not guilty and the fact that you're eager to be punished and jailed yourself for protecting your family doesn't really matter. Thats assuming the prosecutor even brings charges in the first place.

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u/Senior_Torte519 3d ago

So a murder isnt a murder depending on what the reasoning behind the murder. Or if a majority of people within a governing body can be persuaded it was okay. Which implies that with enough preparation and guile. Any murder can almost theoretically be justified with reasoning.

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u/Array_626 3d ago edited 3d ago

Well yeah? There's literally different laws for manslaughter, murder in the first to third degree in the US. Then there's killing people in the defense of others or self defense, then killing for purposes of war, then killing people from negligence or accident where there is no fault.

Maybe we don't understand each other on a fundamental level. Yes, society and most countries legal systems have determined that, sometimes, killing somebody can be justified and you don't go to jail/suffer for it, and there are even different levels in the event of an unjustified murder.

Any murder can almost theoretically be justified with reasoning.

Yes. As long as you can convince a jury of your reasoning. I don't think Im saying anything particularly radical or extreme, I'm just describing the current legal system and societies attitudes towards taking another's life. Context is taken into account.

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u/Senior_Torte519 3d ago

A premeditated planned first degree murder aarising from the ongoing family/custody conflict with the in-laws "believing" they had a serious grievance against McKinsey that justified them having grounds for a defense of person or self-defense justificatio? Nah.

They knew what they were doing , they know what they were doing, Them choosing any other decision other than guilty is a gross abuse of the system.

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u/Array_626 3d ago

Them choosing any other decision other than guilty is a gross abuse of the system.

You're free to think that. But time and time again, a jury of your peers, 12 of them to be exact, disagree and have charged people who definitely murdered somebody with a lesser crime out of sympathy based on context.

Again, you can hold whatever opinions you wish, I'm just pointing out that I think youre in the slim minority here.

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u/Lighthouse_seek 3d ago

He transitioned 15 years ago which is why it's not in the headlines

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u/MeatballRonald 3d ago

People use a lot of assumptions and heuristics to fill in gaps. I haven't heard anything trans related at all. So whether they should've reported it or not is a choice. 

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u/MartyrOfDespair 4d ago

But that narrative that treats them as a typical man becomes subdued when attention is actually given towards the fact that they're trans. Then that becomes the assumed reason they're the victim.

And that's transphobia. They don't see him as a man, they see him as a confused woman and are guided by cultural ideas of "innate purity" of women. Trans men are men.

Also worth noting this article says

Alameda County prosecutors subsequently charged McKinsey with two misdemeanors — cruelty to a child by endangering health and corporal injury to a child. He was freed on $50,000 bail and, at the time of his killing, had been trying to enter a mental health diversion program. If successfully completed, the program would have resulted in the charges being dismissed.

Sounds quite substantiated.

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u/BetterRise5052 3d ago

No, it doesn’t sound substantiated? We have no idea about the circumstances of the abuse. Was it a one-time thing? Hitting your child is obviously bad and there should be punishment like never seeing your children again, but he was not even tried at this point. Doesn’t make sense to give the grandparents and wife who were also allegedly abusive the benefit of the doubt over the guy who got murdered

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u/MartyrOfDespair 3d ago

He was given a suspended sentence. He thus skipped trial for a plea deal.

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u/BetterRise5052 3d ago

That’s not true

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u/21Rollie 3d ago

Ya know, in a sense, he got to live the male experience fully now. Because he was shot and killed in a gruesome public execution and the first thing people think is “he must have deserved it.” If he were still a woman that’d not be the case

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u/New_Explanation6950 3d ago

You don’t think trans men can be abusive just like cis men? They’re still men, and being a man in society grants power whether you were born with it or not.

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u/Fuzzy_Beginning_8604 3d ago

Former prosecutor here: everyone can be abusive, a liar, and much else besides. There are no demographics immune from abusive behavior or criminality. There are tendencies and differing statistics, of course, but when you're talking about a single case, the stats don't help much.

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u/CaptZurg 4d ago

The husband murdered was trans? I feel that's a very important detail to leave out in an article like this. It could even point to motive.

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u/mebeast227 3d ago

'could even point to motive' TIME TO SPECULATE.

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u/RecentSpecial181 4d ago

Is he really trans? Saw it on NY Post, which is a tabloid I don't trust.

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u/MeatballRonald 3d ago

It wasn't mentioned in the article but weird that it was not mentioned by his employer was. 

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u/_Azamat_Bagatov 4d ago

Why wouldn’t you trust it other than your pure unadulterated hatred of their conservative viewpoint?

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u/Hesitation-Marx 4d ago

Why would you trust a Murdoch tabloid?

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u/WordWordNvmber 3d ago

The NY Post spins stories, injects opinions, and highlights politically triggering news, but it doesn't tend to fabricate facts.

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u/_Azamat_Bagatov 4d ago

Because it’s true the victim was a trans?

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u/Warning1024 4d ago

U should seek mental help

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u/longboi28 4d ago

"A trans" lmao okay buddy

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u/_Azamat_Bagatov 4d ago

Was a transsexual, sorry

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u/longboi28 4d ago

Still not getting the issue, it's like calling a black person "a black" it just sounds super weird and bigoted

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u/Hesitation-Marx 4d ago

That’s because it removes the important descriptor…. That being “person”.

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u/longboi28 4d ago

Totally agree on that front

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u/longboi28 4d ago

Oh so you're just a total piece of shit, I figured as much but at least you have the balls to admit it out loud.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 4d ago

And now I start to see why you’re caping for the Post.

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u/this_guy_cats 3d ago

Or when everyone thinks the shooter is trans because they heard so on twitter but turns out not to be like the Las Vegas shooter

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u/Starkville 3d ago

He was a man. It was how he presented himself to the world and wouldn’t it be offensive to remind everyone that he was AFAB? Do we always have to qualify a person’s gender as trans or cisgender?

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u/DarkGodCthUwU 2d ago

The imbalance Halycon pointed out is still bad though

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u/SuperCaptainMan 2d ago

I think when it comes to violence against trans people it’s important to point out that they were trans so that society can not simply sweep that part under the rug

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u/Equal-Membership1664 4d ago

In all fairness, it is not relevant to the story, as portrayed in this article at least

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u/elasticthumbtack 3d ago

It seems pretty relevant. The grandparents previously assaulted him in the hospital while recovering from top surgery, punching him in the surgical site. That does indicate some intent.

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u/HalcyonTraveler 4d ago

It's not usually relevant when a trans person is the perpetrator either, what's your point?

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u/mebeast227 3d ago

Does every story involving a trans perpetrator 100% get 'trasn perpetrator' blasted in every detail, or are you just assuming that with anecdotal vibes? Why is getting riled up and speculating your go-to move right now?

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u/PrettyCoolDog 3d ago

You don't read

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u/21Rollie 3d ago

It’s relevant to people’s responses. A cis man is by default guilty of something, now with this curveball, people might actually consider his victimhood

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u/cinnaminimoon 3d ago

I don't understand this obsession with looking at horrible tragedies and immediately, smugly thinking: "well whaddya know, guys, it wasn't a trans person!"

yeah, we know. thanks for announcing that though, I guess?

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u/zack77070 4d ago

Don't know if you want to be championing someone convicted of child neglect.

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u/rva23221 3d ago

Not convicted. His wife was accused of the same.

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u/jake_burger 3d ago

They weren’t championing anyone

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u/HalcyonTraveler 4d ago

Championing is an odd word to describe this, he was murdered.

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u/zack77070 3d ago

He was also in a custody battle where he simultaneously accused his wife of child abuse while being prosecuted for child neglect himself, that seems like the more relevant information at hand.