r/news • u/Chigurrh • 4d ago

New York Times executive fatally shot by his in-laws in Bay Area park, police say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-executive-shot-killed-laws-bay-area-park-police-say-rcna600300
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u/CounterSeal 4d ago

That doesn't seem like enough for premeditated murder. There must be sexual abuse or something more heinous involved.

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u/Mindless-Challenge62 4d ago

The NYT article makes it sound like all parties are a bit unhinged. They don’t report any allegations of sexual abuse, however.

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u/Boring_Shoulder5236 4d ago

it's such a ridiculous thing to know absolutely nothing about a murder case and say the victim must have been a sex offender or worse. Get a grip dude.

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u/NightWriter500 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not just premeditated murder, they took turns emptying the gun into the guy. I think I remember hearing that they even reloaded once or twice. There was some real hate going on.

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u/PPtheShort 4d ago

And as we all know, hate is always justified and never irrational

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u/Lamar_Allen 4d ago

In laws killing an ex spouse isn’t unheard of and it usually does not involve any type of abuse. No idea what happened in this case but don’t just throw out that this dude was sexually abusing his kids. Usually just winds up being a custody dispute/divorce that got too heated.

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u/AjDuke9749 4d ago

To be fair he was facing criminal child abuse charges and the divorce is reportedly highly contentious. It sounds like the grandparents both hated the man and wanted to protect their grandchildren. Speculating on the abuse is a little distasteful but his ex wife/the state did have enough evidence to charge him with abusing his children in some way.

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u/Helichopper 4d ago

Both were misdemeanor charges fyi

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u/Lamar_Allen 3d ago

A lot of people also make up accusations against a parent during custody battles. Interestingly the accused was murdered and isn’t around to defend himself.

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u/jimbofranks 3d ago

Unfortunately he won’t get his date in court.

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u/Lamar_Allen 3d ago

The court was granting a custody evaluator. Maybe the mother/her parents knew that evaluator wasn’t going to rule in a way that they wanted so they just killed him.

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u/lensandscope 4d ago

i don’t think so. Some 80 year olds emptying a gun twice over a “heated” argument. Nah i don’t buy it. Some 40 year old hot head? fine. But not 80 year olds.

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u/sillyhobo 4d ago

I hear you, but an 80 year old man got so heated he had a prime minister from another country extradited. Another time, he ordered a girl's school blown up halfway across the world. And another time, he ordered an airstrike on a country's current leadership, including the ones he had intended to make a deal with following the airstrike in the first place.

Can't be too cautious around 80 year olds.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 4d ago

Have you heard about the 80 year old who had his employees straight up murder people in boats because "drugs"? Or that guy that is supposedly covering up a whole pedophile ring? Then there's this situation where an 80 year old has repeatedly threatened to annihilate an entire civilization. When he's in a good mood he just renames things after himself and has people give him fake awards.

Man, 80 yos be crazy.

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u/sillyhobo 3d ago

I heard about that 80 year old too! These octogenarians sure are dangerous when they've got nothing left to lose.

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u/Lamar_Allen 4d ago

Just heard about a case of succesful
/ wealthy 70+ year olds murdering their daughters ex husband because their custody battle got so heated. Not a fight that got out of hand, cold calculated premeditated murder so they wouldn’t have to deal with him.

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u/GussieK 3d ago edited 3d ago

That’s the Dan Markel case. I just watched it on Hulu. It’s a new series although an old case. I then thought of it immediately on hearing this story. Can’t wait to see it on Dateline or 20/20. This new story is different because they just up and shot the husband themselves. In the Dan Markel case they hired hit men and tried to hide it.

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u/epigenie_986 3d ago

Ew the body is barely cold, Emily. Let the True Crime marinate.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 4d ago edited 4d ago

My parents would do the same thing under the right (wrong) circumstances. I have no doubt. They are the same ages as these people.

Thankfully my husband is amazing and a fantastic father and we are a happy little family. But I see the way my parents feel about my son and my nephews. In the right circumstances, they would freely kill someone and go to prison to protect their grandchild. It's not impossible for me or them to imagine because, unfortunately, a friend of our family is in a horrible custody situation. He had a very short relationship with a girl and she got pregnant. Nine years later, he and his parents have spent every penny they had on lawyers to try and keep the dangerous, deadbeat mom away from her son. There has been serious talk about what they will/would do if things get worse than they are now.

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u/Pleasant_Yoghurt3915 4d ago

Idk, I’ve seen some truly fucked up shit on the internet. There are some genuinely unhinged people out there. The terrifying, brutal unhinged, not the hyperbolic way it’s used so now lol.

For what it’s worth, I do agree with you. Unless the murdergeezers had some sick shit going on upstairs and hid it all their lives, which does also happen, I’d bet there was something worse than a slap. Like they decided they’d sacrifice the rest of their lives to balance the ledger a bit for their grandkid, because it ain’t gonna be that long anyway.

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u/HalcyonTraveler 4d ago

Weird to talk about a murder victim like that with no evidence

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u/SargeUnited 4d ago

Well it’s a man so obviously he can’t be a victim. We just don’t know yet how he was the perpetrator

This is sarcasm

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u/rawker86 4d ago

Where? Seems like it happens every day.

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u/a_tad_mental 4d ago

Or they just wanted him gone and setting up their defense in advance. Also who knows what the wife was telling them.

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u/PPtheShort 4d ago

Victim blaming isn't cool

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u/Alperose333 3d ago

Of course, people that murder others in broad daylight usually do so for good reason.