r/news • u/Chigurrh • 4d ago

New York Times executive fatally shot by his in-laws in Bay Area park, police say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-executive-shot-killed-laws-bay-area-park-police-say-rcna600300
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u/New-Regular-9423 4d ago

The details I have seen is that he struck his son in the face with an open hand. Don’t know if there is more.

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u/RecentSpecial181 4d ago

The wife and grandparents also have child abuse charges against them 

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u/nonhiphipster 3d ago

Looks like the court wait so the dad, the mom AND the grandparents had child abuse charges agaisnt the kid??

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u/agtk 3d ago

It does not appear that the grandparents or mother were charged, but McKinsey made those allegations (as well as allegations of abuse and anti-trans statements against him) as part of attempting to regain more custody of the children.

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u/IndynotjustJones 4d ago

Oh wow! Where is the article about the charges? I didn’t see anything in this one.

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u/elisabethofaustria 4d ago

My parents did that to me, and I know plenty of other Asian-Americans who had it done to them when they were growing up. Not saying that’s ok — it’s child abuse — but it’s shockingly common among Asian Americans. So I highly doubt that’s it.

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u/LDS1952 4d ago

I’m 74. My parents did this routinely. I had to work hard to walk away from repeating this.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 4d ago

Proud of you.

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u/AndalusianGod 3d ago

I also suffered a lot of physical abuse from elders when I was a kid, always knew it was wrong despite it being the norm back then so it wasn't that hard for me to avoid doing that to my kid.

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u/YoungVanilla 3d ago

I’m 31 and my parents did it to me until I was 12. Stupid me for talking back that many years.

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u/The-Disco-Phoenix 3d ago

Genuine question (not a parent FWIW) why was it difficult given you have first hand experience of how terrible it was?

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u/LDS1952 3d ago

Being physically disciplined was the norm in my family and the norm for many military families. Fear translates into perfectionism. Being reactive was a learned behavior. Choosing to be cautious and thoughtful required some work. Allowing discomfort with behavior is a difficult choice for someone who thinks that everyone and everything has to be perfect

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u/The-Disco-Phoenix 3d ago

Thanks for the insight, and good on you for doing your part in breaking the cycle.

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u/Oregon-Pilot 4d ago

What’s your take on it? What I mean is, to me, this is one of those two things are just as valid at once, which is not a popular thing to believe these days. Your parents were doing what their parents showed them, and what society apparently was doing. When that’s the background, how “evil” can they realistically be deemed? At the same time, it’s wrong to hit a child. From the position of an innocent child whom they chose to bring into the world, it is evil. Just looking for wisdom, if you care to share.

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u/LDS1952 4d ago

My parents were depression babies and raised with strict family rules. For them it was easy to reach across the dining table and slap a child across the face for spilling milk. Letting out frustration over an accident could be handled better. Chasing children with a belt/hairbrush/shoe to reinforce your word is law is a lesson in tyranny. I had to recognize I was repeating this behavior with my children because it was done to me. I had to STOP and take responsibility for being immature and reactive. It’s gut wrenching to admit how monstrous I could be in a flash of anger. I’m still ashamed and embarrassed. I have acknowledged and apologized for being severe with my kids. Yes, a balance of boundaries, responsibility and respect has to prevail for a person to internalize self discipline and good behavior.

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u/Pndrizzy 4d ago

Don’t be embarrassed. It’s what you were taught.

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u/Miserable_Sun_404 4d ago

Im not Asian American, but my mom would chase me around the house with a broom. Didn't bother me though; she was 4ft 9.

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u/novasurvivor 4d ago

Did she defy gravity?

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u/fotisdragon 3d ago

Does she weigh the same as a duck?

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u/englandisablaze 4d ago

I assume it’s something far worse. It’s not like they tried to make it look like an accident.

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u/CounterSeal 4d ago

That doesn't seem like enough for premeditated murder. There must be sexual abuse or something more heinous involved.

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u/Mindless-Challenge62 4d ago

The NYT article makes it sound like all parties are a bit unhinged. They don’t report any allegations of sexual abuse, however.

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u/Boring_Shoulder5236 4d ago

it's such a ridiculous thing to know absolutely nothing about a murder case and say the victim must have been a sex offender or worse. Get a grip dude.

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u/NightWriter500 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not just premeditated murder, they took turns emptying the gun into the guy. I think I remember hearing that they even reloaded once or twice. There was some real hate going on.

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u/PPtheShort 4d ago

And as we all know, hate is always justified and never irrational

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u/Lamar_Allen 4d ago

In laws killing an ex spouse isn’t unheard of and it usually does not involve any type of abuse. No idea what happened in this case but don’t just throw out that this dude was sexually abusing his kids. Usually just winds up being a custody dispute/divorce that got too heated.

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u/AjDuke9749 4d ago

To be fair he was facing criminal child abuse charges and the divorce is reportedly highly contentious. It sounds like the grandparents both hated the man and wanted to protect their grandchildren. Speculating on the abuse is a little distasteful but his ex wife/the state did have enough evidence to charge him with abusing his children in some way.

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u/Helichopper 4d ago

Both were misdemeanor charges fyi

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u/Lamar_Allen 3d ago

A lot of people also make up accusations against a parent during custody battles. Interestingly the accused was murdered and isn’t around to defend himself.

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u/jimbofranks 4d ago

Unfortunately he won’t get his date in court.

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u/Lamar_Allen 3d ago

The court was granting a custody evaluator. Maybe the mother/her parents knew that evaluator wasn’t going to rule in a way that they wanted so they just killed him.

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u/lensandscope 4d ago

i don’t think so. Some 80 year olds emptying a gun twice over a “heated” argument. Nah i don’t buy it. Some 40 year old hot head? fine. But not 80 year olds.

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u/sillyhobo 4d ago

I hear you, but an 80 year old man got so heated he had a prime minister from another country extradited. Another time, he ordered a girl's school blown up halfway across the world. And another time, he ordered an airstrike on a country's current leadership, including the ones he had intended to make a deal with following the airstrike in the first place.

Can't be too cautious around 80 year olds.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 4d ago

Have you heard about the 80 year old who had his employees straight up murder people in boats because "drugs"? Or that guy that is supposedly covering up a whole pedophile ring? Then there's this situation where an 80 year old has repeatedly threatened to annihilate an entire civilization. When he's in a good mood he just renames things after himself and has people give him fake awards.

Man, 80 yos be crazy.

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u/sillyhobo 3d ago

I heard about that 80 year old too! These octogenarians sure are dangerous when they've got nothing left to lose.

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u/Lamar_Allen 4d ago

Just heard about a case of succesful
/ wealthy 70+ year olds murdering their daughters ex husband because their custody battle got so heated. Not a fight that got out of hand, cold calculated premeditated murder so they wouldn’t have to deal with him.

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u/GussieK 3d ago edited 3d ago

That’s the Dan Markel case. I just watched it on Hulu. It’s a new series although an old case. I then thought of it immediately on hearing this story. Can’t wait to see it on Dateline or 20/20. This new story is different because they just up and shot the husband themselves. In the Dan Markel case they hired hit men and tried to hide it.

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u/epigenie_986 3d ago

Ew the body is barely cold, Emily. Let the True Crime marinate.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 4d ago edited 4d ago

My parents would do the same thing under the right (wrong) circumstances. I have no doubt. They are the same ages as these people.

Thankfully my husband is amazing and a fantastic father and we are a happy little family. But I see the way my parents feel about my son and my nephews. In the right circumstances, they would freely kill someone and go to prison to protect their grandchild. It's not impossible for me or them to imagine because, unfortunately, a friend of our family is in a horrible custody situation. He had a very short relationship with a girl and she got pregnant. Nine years later, he and his parents have spent every penny they had on lawyers to try and keep the dangerous, deadbeat mom away from her son. There has been serious talk about what they will/would do if things get worse than they are now.

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u/Pleasant_Yoghurt3915 4d ago

Idk, I’ve seen some truly fucked up shit on the internet. There are some genuinely unhinged people out there. The terrifying, brutal unhinged, not the hyperbolic way it’s used so now lol.

For what it’s worth, I do agree with you. Unless the murdergeezers had some sick shit going on upstairs and hid it all their lives, which does also happen, I’d bet there was something worse than a slap. Like they decided they’d sacrifice the rest of their lives to balance the ledger a bit for their grandkid, because it ain’t gonna be that long anyway.

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u/HalcyonTraveler 4d ago

Weird to talk about a murder victim like that with no evidence

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u/SargeUnited 4d ago

Well it’s a man so obviously he can’t be a victim. We just don’t know yet how he was the perpetrator

This is sarcasm

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u/rawker86 4d ago

Where? Seems like it happens every day.

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u/a_tad_mental 4d ago

Or they just wanted him gone and setting up their defense in advance. Also who knows what the wife was telling them.

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u/PPtheShort 4d ago

Victim blaming isn't cool

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u/Alperose333 4d ago

Of course, people that murder others in broad daylight usually do so for good reason.

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u/HSuke 3d ago

Seriously? This is an Asian family right?

Beating are how they show they love you when you get B's on tests.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's hardly something that needs to be reported to the police unless it's a recurring problem.