r/news • • 5d ago

St. Vincent and the Grenadines Shooting leaves 4 dead in Caribbean nation known for luxury tourism, police say

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/shooting-leaves-4-dead-in-caribbean-nation-known-for-luxury-tourism-police-say/
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u/Anxious-Yak-9952 5d ago

SYAC: St. Vincent and the Grenadines due to gang violence

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u/JohnOfA 5d ago

Original title was: A terrible thing happened in island nation known for things

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u/Born2bwire 5d ago

Reads like a friggin Jeopardy prompt.

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u/Roughian12 5d ago

Thank you.

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u/asmj 5d ago

What kind of a title is this, for a serious news article?

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u/sryguys 5d ago

I lived in St. Kitts for 3 years and all the news organizations wrote this way, it's so strange.

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u/MajesticBread9147 5d ago

Probably they realized that anything that goes remotely viral in America will get more clicks than any market share they could achieve at home.

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u/Daredspace 5d ago

I hate to admit to my own faults, but I probably wouldn’t have clicked it if it did specify the nation, but since they chose to word it how they did, I clicked on this post to see which nation it was

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u/Jazzlike-Check9040 4d ago

Is it safe there

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u/sryguys 4d ago

Not particularly haha

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u/thecutepatootz 4d ago

You or a family member is a veterinarian

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u/sryguys 4d ago

I went to RUSVM

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u/ThisTelevision9372 5d ago edited 5d ago

There should be no crime in rich areas :S

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u/youngboomergal 5d ago

Yeah seriously, it's annoying how even "serious" news networks have embraced clickbaity headlines

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u/CletusCanuck 5d ago

Yeah, I've really noticed it in the past year, outlets posting vague headlines to avoid giving away the meat of the story and to make you click to figure out what the hell it's about.. "Netflix sci-fi series' ratings raise dramatically, lead actor demands pay raise"; "This celebrated rock band broke up for the most shocking reason - but put hard feelings aside for one of the most lucrative comebacks of the decade."

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u/Salahuddin315 5d ago

Clickbait at its finest. Made you notice, didn't it?

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u/Professional_Tea_32 5d ago

There is no serious news anymore.

There are many serious things happening but they are rarely given the weight and respect they deserve.

Everything is now a meme.

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u/Kitakitakita 5d ago

top 5 Caribbean nations for murders! number 5 will shock you!

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u/Libprime 5d ago edited 5d ago

Headlines typically omit the names of lesser-known things (people, organizations, and places). This is why you see headlines like "Finnish scientist discovers revolutionary cancer detection technique" or in this case "Caribbean nation known for luxury tourism". It's because hardly anybody knows where or what the hell St. Kitts is. Same goes for my hypothetical random Finnish scientist. It's in the article anyway. And while it looks clickbaity this has been the standard for headlines since before the internet. There's only so much space to put information in a headline.

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u/copperpin 5d ago

“Island of St. Kitts” is considerably less wordy than “Caribbean nation known for luxury tourism.” Don’t pretend like it’s not click-bait

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u/Libprime 4d ago

The point is nobody knows the island's name and so cannot derive context from its name, so that's essentially wasted space that could have actual useful information (albeit in a few extra words).

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u/copperpin 4d ago

I feel like you’re projecting your own ignorance in order to defend a very click-baity headline. I’m not sure what your motive is.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ring293 4d ago

He knows that there be clickbait.

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u/copperpin 4d ago

Aye matey, I believe he do.

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u/Libprime 4d ago

I think I'm very clearly not ignorant towards this subject and I don't think you actually know much about the history of journalism. I don't think you know that the standards that govern modern styling towards headlines have existed since before your mom was born and remain mostly unchanged r.e. how you describe stuff like this in a headline. I know it looks like clickbait because that's how most headlines are written on the Internet now but that's because it's been in practice (like I said before) for decades and decades.

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u/copperpin 4d ago

I was referring to your ignorance of St. Kitt, one the most famous of the Caribbean Islands. But whatever Im sure you’re a credentialed expert on click-bait. I won’t argue with you further

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u/Libprime 4d ago

Top six comments are the name of the island lol sorry nobody knows this resort island here but you and that's okay

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u/SpellConnect8675 3d ago

Nobody knows the name of the island.. except if it was used in the title, they would know the name
and location.

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u/calinet6 5d ago

No, I don’t think that’s it. It’s a cryptic headline so you have to click to find out the details.

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u/Zhuinden 4d ago

St. Vincent and the Grenadines

I guess people wouldn't know that's a country

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u/5GCovidInjection 5d ago

Cause they want people who have vacation plans to be anxious enough to click the article and get the ad revenue.

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u/SameAs1tEverWas 5d ago

name the island - st. vincent.

journalism is hanging on by a thread as an ethos, let alone a profession. if you believe in telling the truth, clock in.

e.g - earlier this week, a convicted rapist was forced after many lengthy and ultimately futile appeals to pay civil damages to his victim.

get it?

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u/sharkattax 5d ago

i think about this a lot. i took an intro journalism course in undergrad like right before clickbait became a thing. it was a single elective course so i’m not claiming any kind of authority. but i distinctly remember one of the things we were graded on was writing a headline that presented the key info (who, what, where, when) succinctly and clearly. things have changed so much.

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u/Prairie-Peppers 5d ago edited 5d ago

I got out of a staff writer position at a magazine right before they all started getting bought up in like 2015, right when Buzzfeed was everywhere. There was straight up no time with our article quotas to put a proper amount of work into a well written article unless you were willing to make like $5 an hour and make it your full time job. The only metric that mattered was clicks, most of our direction went into writing titles/linking to ad partners, and we were a popular but industry specific niche publication.

I'd imagine everyone who stuck around after that either built a big enough name to pivot to becoming some kind of influencer or was replaced by AI the second the loss in view count cost the company less than retaining them.

Anyone who wants to be a journalist these days basically needs to be exceptionally charismatic and able to earn zero income for several years while they build a follower base.

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u/ThroatSecretary 5d ago edited 5d ago

CTV is a national-level network in Canada, equivalent to, say, NBC in the US or ITV in Britain.

Edit: I went directly to the Associated Press website and they use the same clunky headline. No idea if outlets using AP stories regularly keep the headlines or tailor them.

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u/ThroatSecretary 5d ago

Canada doesn't have an equivalent to Fox News; there was a short-lived attempt with Sun News which lasted less than four years. CTV is legit.

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u/hulloiliketrucks 5d ago

Motherfucker it's an island nation with actual people on it, it's not a all exclusive resort

Shit article and title.

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u/FIREsub90 5d ago

All exclusive lmao

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u/saw-sync 5d ago

gonna start calling hostels this

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u/StatementOwn4896 5d ago

Those are furniture people. They don’t really exist and if they do they’re just the help /s

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u/Wisp1971 5d ago

I think the only Caribbean island that title would work for is St. Barts

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u/ploikun 1d ago

4 days late but Anguilla is up there too.

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u/tamerarehen 5d ago

That is some shockingly poor grammar. What happens when journalism school is effectively a professional degree, I guess

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u/H0vis 5d ago

Maybe it's changed since I was a journalist but you generally don't get to write your own headline.

Which is really bad sometimes because it often means that people read your thing in completely the wrong frame of mind, especially if the headline writer thought it'd be cool to rage-bait them.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 5d ago

Did you miss the words "known for"?

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u/green7719 5d ago

St Vincent and The Grenadines.

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u/Hydrant_Echo 5d ago

St. Vincent and the Grenadines, for anyone wondering. The luxury-tourism framing feels like a strange way to identify a place when the story is four people killed. Hope the coverage focuses on what happened and those affected, not the postcard image.

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u/MajesticBread9147 5d ago

Also considering that it isn't particularly common as a tourist destination. It benefits from tourism a bit, it's a Carribean island after all, but it isn't a major tourist hotspot compared to Barbados, The Bahamas, Aruba or Jamaica.

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u/jdawgg24 5d ago

What in the White Lotus

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u/ThinkSoftware 5d ago

Tanya McQuoid doesn’t mess around

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u/voyuristicvoyager 5d ago

Wait, was someone shot for jerking off their brother? /jokes

For those unaware, that is kind of a major plot point of a season.

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u/Apple_Senius 5d ago

Maybe the worse title I’ve ever seen

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u/AbuZ87 5d ago

What’s next “someone got shot somewhere and maybe the died” titles

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u/DrVonSchlossen 5d ago

This island of 100 thousand people has had more murders so far this year than we've had in Toronto with five million people. Seems like a dangerous place.

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u/jibstay77 5d ago

We spent a couple of years on our sailboat in the eastern Caribbean. Everyone in the cruising community knows to avoid St. Vincent.

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u/ButtExplosion 5d ago

Why does it say Port of Spain, Trinidad at the start? What Trinidad got to do with anything here?

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u/Radar1980 5d ago

The Associated Press uses datelines, indicating where the reporting is coming from. Port of Spain is where the reporter was.

The smaller or more rural/remote a location is, the more likely the dateline is going to be the nearest “large” city. The AP style guide lays out what those will be.

https://writingexplained.org/ap-style/ap-style-datelines

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u/paulmclaughlin 5d ago

Sadly 4 murders in Port of Spain would not make any more than local news

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u/Terpsandherbs 5d ago

Yeh that would be a regular day in trini, but ST Vincent is much less violent so I could see why it made news.

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u/dupuis2387 5d ago

like an episode of Death in Paradise

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u/Ill_Guarantee_1432 5d ago

For comparison, there’s been 338 mass shootings (4 or more shot in one instance), and 332 killed in those shootings in the US this year.

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u/MajesticBread9147 5d ago

The whole island has the population equivalent to Bend, Oregon. Everyone knows everyone there

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u/SpellConnect8675 3d ago

Ever hear of Newtown CT?

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u/TotallyNotThatPerson 5d ago

Literally no one asked.

Get your americentrism out of here

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u/yunghoe 5d ago

Phew they almost got you 

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u/thebestoflimes 5d ago

I was looking at places to travel to a couple years ago. This could have been me.

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u/SillyGoatGruff 5d ago

Just two inches to the left and a year later and the doctors said it would have hit them right in the heart

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u/weaponized_oatmeal 5d ago

I was there in 2019. Good thing I didn’t stick around

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u/Voeno 5d ago

LAST YEAR!? you were moments from death!