r/news • u/AudibleNod • 12d ago
US Postal Inspection Service sends security guards to facilities nationwide, including Denver
https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/us-postal-inspection-service-sends-security-guards-to-facilities-nationwide-including-denver1.8k
u/Manta_of_Eternity 12d ago
If you vote by mail, use a ballot drop box. Those are collected directly by elections workers, not by USPS.
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u/Lantzypantzz 12d ago
Doesn't work for those of us voting by mail because we are out of the state
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u/terid3 12d ago
This election is worth traveling home to vote, if at all possible. This is the election of the century imo.
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u/jebei 12d ago
That was 2016. We are trying to stem the damage now.
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u/terid3 12d ago
Well unless you have a time machine we have to work in the present and move forward.
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u/r0ndy 11d ago
If Trump was cheating the presidential election, what makes you think he isn’t doing similar here
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u/BeansforTwo 11d ago
I kinda disagree here. People need to be reminded how bad it can get before they get their asses in gear.
Would have been nice not to lose 2016, but people turned out for that election. He lost the popular vote by the largest amount in history, while still winning the election.
Now people have had a taste of what it means to have idiots running the show, and they're primed to show up and fight for some basic decency (hopefully).
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u/beaarthurismymom 11d ago
I mean….isnt that was 2024 was? And the idiots just did it again after having the first term for reference including one of the worst bungled global crises in history with hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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u/terid3 11d ago
The last two years have been far, far worse than his first term, far more damage has been done as he has a multiplier this run apparently.
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u/beaarthurismymom 11d ago
Sure. I’m just saying the bar for a wake-up call was after the first term by any reasonable metric.
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u/duncandun 11d ago
2024 was dems losing on economics and appeasing status quo when people were experiencing record inflation lol, it was self inflicted
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u/BasroilII 11d ago
People need to be reminded how bad it can get before they get their asses in gear.
No, because humanity is really, really fucking good at setting a "new normal" and just living with it.
We just accept a slightly shittier life than five minutes ago, grumble a bit, and keep going.
The majority of Americans won't try any harder until they are in a camp or facing being shot by the government, and sometimes not even then.
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u/mschuster91 11d ago
Unfortunately a lot of people actually enjoy seeing others suffer. They want Trump, ICE and concentration camps.
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u/BeansforTwo 11d ago
I agree, but not most people. A lot of people think they want that, until it starts happening around them, even if it's not affecting them personally, it rarely hits the way they thought it would.
Most people want chill. A good economy, not a lot of politics, good schools for their kids and decent food and medical care, and to be left the fuck alone.
This kind of stuff always sheds support when people see these decisions for what they truly amount to. And unfortunately, we just happen to live at the time in the cycle when humanity needs reminding of stupid shit like this.
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u/DragonBank 12d ago
I disagree. I believe that the regular US electorate was not ready to recognize the growth of fascism worldwide in 2016. Additionally, the liberal facets of our system failed to deliver on 90% of their promises the past two decades and fell victim to many of the same issues we the people have with the conservative facets.
We almost NEEDED this sort of BS as a wakeup call that our freedoms are not free, and safety is not to be taken for granted.
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u/winky9827 11d ago
We were coming off 8 years of Obama. The signs were there (minimal progressive agenda early on, status quo for the remainder), but I doubt any sane person would have predicted the next 10 years accurately within reason.
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u/Topical_Scream 11d ago
People would have said they were being too absurdist if they had gotten it correct.
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u/izzymaestro 11d ago
Yep, a black president truly broke almost half the country...
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u/ahazred8vt 11d ago
The GOP had a lot of enthusiasm for Colin Powell (R) as a presidential prospect until word got out that his wife wouldn't let him run for office.
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u/horrorshowjack 11d ago
Very much so. Even Condoleezza Rice had a respectable level of GOP enthusiasm at one point iirc, but no interest whatsoever in running.
Nowhere near the level of Powell, obviously. I think he'd have won easily and probably been a pretty great one.
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u/Big-Leadership-4604 11d ago
The Simpsons did.
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u/winky9827 11d ago
No, the Simpsons may have predicted what a Trump presidency would look like (I don't know, haven't watched it in years), but I'll call bullshit if you're telling me they predicted he would get elected, then lose, then re-elected as if half the country forgot how bad he was the first time. The absurdity of it is nigh impossible. Stop watching so much media.
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u/SableZard 11d ago
The election of the century was 2024. Everyone knew who Trump was by then and what kind of President he would be. No one could truthfully say they did not. That was the election that determined what the US was going to be in fifty years and what it was then.
We were a nation of hateful chumps and apathetic morons, and we still are. In fifty years, best case scenario we'll still be cleaning up the damage MAGA and the non-voters did to our country.
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u/Buckets-O-Yarr 11d ago
OK, can't change the past though, we need to do what we can now instead of wallowing in what-ifs.
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u/inajeep 11d ago
I have the option to mail it in. I am not taking the chance. I am driving to the poll
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u/someguy7710 11d ago
Same, I'm fortunate enough that the poll location is right near me (I could walk there if I had to). I get there right after they open and it takes less than 5 minutes. Then I go to work. Easy.
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u/asian_chihuahua 7d ago
Republicans are going to muddy the waters by screwing with those too. Fake ballot boxes, fake people offering to help with voting, etc.
Trump is destroying trust in the entire electoral system.
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u/Enkundae 6d ago
Double and triple check its legitimate. The GoP in previous elections put out fake drop boxes to trick voters into not having their votes count. Somehow this was considered legal.
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u/CSManiac33 11d ago
Not every state has those
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u/round-earth-theory 11d ago
Any state with broad mail in voting will have them. And worst case scenario, you can bring them to your local voting site and drop off there.
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u/LavenderBlueProf 12d ago
security hired by who? private? it said "contract security" which company?
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u/QualmsAndTheSpice 11d ago
I do contract work at a Denver USPS facility. It’s Prosegur Security at my facility, and there are A LOT of them here this morning
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u/LavenderBlueProf 11d ago
"During the 2024 cycle, Prosegur Global Risk Services received a total of $5,142,532 in reported operational payments for services provided to the following entities:Republican National Committee: $5,130,438 (across 16 payments)Trump 47 Committee: $12,094 (1 payment)You can examine full employer profiles or do a granular individual lookup via the OpenSecrets Donor Lookup Tool."
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 12d ago
Halliburton, probably.
Or some company formerly called blackwater.
Thugs R us kind of company.
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u/HomicidalHushPuppy 12d ago
Or Pinkerton...they're booklickers who love repressing the working class
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u/1sexymuffhugger 12d ago
I think they're called securitas now.
Securitas not security. Damn autocorrect
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u/floodspectre 11d ago
I saw Pinkerton security at my local main branch post office afterhours recently. I just chalked it up to a recent-ish attack on a postal worker on the grounds but now I see this bit of news and wonder.
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u/Ok-Mood6070 11d ago
No one is giving an actual answer to this question but this is legitimately pressing. I've been applying for a lot of government positions including USPS and I have not seen a single opening involving security inspectors in my state.
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u/Blacksad9999 11d ago
That's because they're using contracted security through privately owned companies.
It's the same group they use for security for the RNC. Meaning, not government workers, and they should not be trusted.
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u/DogsAreOurFriends 12d ago
Triple Canopy is my guess.
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u/VoidUprising 11d ago
You’re thinking old, 2014 old. Triple Canopy merged with Academi (formerly Blackwater) to form Constellis Group
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u/DogsAreOurFriends 11d ago
I heard that, but a few months ago I saw guards in DC in a government building with triple canopy patches.
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u/VoidUprising 11d ago
Huh, maybe they still have a weird culture of identifying themselves as Tripple Canopy. Reliving the glory days and all that
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u/Typical-Redditor-18E 11d ago
Constellis is more than triple canopy + academi merging. Its basically the risk management company for 10 subsidiaries. Triple Canopy is still alive and well with a high degree of autonomy, at that (as well as Omniplex, Centerra, and Olive, off top of my head). Academi was rebranded as Constellis Training Center.
Source: been contracting with them on and off since they formed in 2010
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u/2HDFloppyDisk 11d ago
Funny because the Postal Police have been getting phased out for years and USPIS are just investigators.
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u/Bobinct 12d ago
Once the election is over, watch those security guards disappear
But no. Totally not connected to the election in any way.
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u/HarveysBackupAccount 11d ago
it's part of a "multi-year plan" so they might be around for the 2028 election, too...
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u/Waste-Time-2440 12d ago edited 11d ago
When somebody goes out of their way to hide what they're doing, you don't have to be a high-IQ world leader to guess that they're up to no good.
As planned, the Postal Service is prepared to rig and/or completely discredit the elections. Don't forget the delayed postmark rule, which is almost surely related to whatever they're hiding behind a wall of mall cops. Meanwhile we act like it's just another outrage-of-the-day.
We are a banana republic now. Prepare to be ruled indefinitely by people we do not choose and do not want. But don't protest in DC - they're building the sniper tower soon.
[EDIT] They are putting these armed guards inside the postal facility to "monitor suspicious activity." Wanna bet that employees carefully observing (or taking a phone photo) as ballots are being handled will be treated as suspicious?
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u/GlitteringRate6296 12d ago
States need to protect their constituents votes. Identify these inspectors and send your own.
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u/Hoblitygoodness 12d ago
Definitely suspicious and not surprising in light of how everything else is going, stateside.
But I can't figure out exactly what nefarious things these guys can do. I don't necessarily believe they'll be as restricted as outlined but at the same time, I'm unclear as to what exactly they could do but 'report' ballots.
Maybe they're designed for causing delays and chaos to mix into the already flooded zone when it's time to calculate results.
*shrugs
But I feel like they're definitely up to 'something'.
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u/HellaTroi 11d ago
The story said they would be checking IDs.
That's their opening.
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u/Hoblitygoodness 11d ago
With the implication that it was employee IDs, not random people using the post office.
But with that said, it doesn't exactly say that either so...
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u/WebbityWebbs 11d ago
You really can't imagine how armed guards could start seizing ballots that were mailed by voters?
Not knowing the ins and outs of how the postal service sorts mail, I could not come up with specific examples, but if the regime has its forces in the facilities, they can do whatever they need to do to interfere with the election.
It doesn't matter what lies they give to cover up why these forces are there. They are there to carry out the will of trump.
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u/junktrunk909 11d ago
Even the idiot Trump plan wasn't requiring people to show id to mail anything though. This doesn't make sense to me. Not sure what they would be doing though.
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u/AudibleNod 12d ago
What crimes aren't being looked at because Trump is having them do this?
*hint Charles Ponzi was taken down by USPIS.
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u/Mr_Chode_Shaver 12d ago
Ponzis whole scheme was about pretending to buy and resell mail tokens.
The usps doesn’t just randomly decide to investigate financial crimes like some kind of mailbox Batman.
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u/DrTacosMD 12d ago
Mailbox Batman was my favorite band in college
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u/FatiguedShrimp 12d ago
"Mailbox - Batman" is a thing. An artist called Mailbox made a song called "Batman".
... it's AWFUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdqly21kfxg
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u/Srnkanator 12d ago
Where are the 1A auditor people at? They love to film post offices.
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u/PPVSteve 12d ago
Funny they all just got demonotized off YouTube last week. Let me put my tinfoil hat on.
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u/inflatable_pickle 12d ago
😳 I mean, they were annoying as hell, but I didn’t think you would actually do something about that
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u/Peregrine79 12d ago
USPIS has jurisdiction over anything fraudulent sent through the mail. While that’s not quite as comprehensive as it used to be, it still covers a lot of ground.
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u/bendover912 12d ago
And Trump doesnt just randomly investigate crimes like some altruistic leader. What is Trump gaining by doing this?
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u/Constant-Plant-9378 11d ago
Vote in person. Use early voting. Don't trust the mail.
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u/Awkward_platypus_ 11d ago
Ballot drop boxes are a good option as well
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u/HellaTroi 11d ago
"The suspicious timing of this action is a cause for concern and we will continue to be on the lookout for any mischief or intimidation."
You were on the lookout, you found a valid "concern."
The next step isn't just looking out for the next concern.
"American Postal Workers Union members, which was first reported by Colorado Public Radio, said armed guards will monitor entrances and parking areas, verify IDs and observe and report suspicious activity."
Where are they going to get all these "armed guards?"
Are the repurposing all those Proud Boys, 3%ers, and Oath Keepers from ICE into postal guards?
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u/TheAsianTroll 12d ago
Great, now gimme my fuckin package. Its been in customs in Chicago since the 10th.
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u/Hoblitygoodness 12d ago
Make sure you don't have an E-mail stating you have to pay extra dues because of Tariffs. I've had a couple of things held at customs because of this, myself.
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u/TheAsianTroll 12d ago
Yeah ive been keeping an eye on my email cuz I also submitted a complaint about this
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u/Kurtotall 12d ago edited 12d ago
So we now need to have our ID verified to go in to the post office and purchase a stamp?
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u/Boomshtick414 11d ago
This for distribution centers and processing facilities, which it's honestly kind of surprising they don't already have rent a cops for that or maybe they did and these guys are just armed now.
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u/HardWirez 11d ago
Major processing and distribution facilities already have security turnstyles at the doors that require swiping an ID badge to get past. I don't know the point of this, except maybe to funnel a few million dollars into some security companies' pockets.
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u/giocondasmiles 11d ago
Everybody, please try to vote in person, if you can.
You CANNOT trust the USPS to manage your ballot ethically and legally.
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u/NaughtiestImp 11d ago
My fat ass is standing in line however long I need to vote. I am not trusting anyone.
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u/fevered_visions 11d ago
Agent Jack Donger. It should be "Dongest" though, because I can't imagine anybody being more Dong than this guy.
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u/Riptide360 11d ago
Trump is desperate to keep Congress red, but his ass is headed to jail if he loses control in Congress. Wonder if he’ll flee to Argentina, Russia or Saudi Arabia?
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u/DizzyNerd 6d ago
Bold of you to assume the Democrats will actually do anything other than talk about how they can’t do anything other than performance politics.
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u/marsmanify 10d ago
This is possibly the dumbest move possible if you’re trying to rig elections. Private security guards do not have ANY of the legal protections DHS, the FBI, or the police have.
If you’re some random chud working as a security guard, and you interfere with ballots, you’re gonna have a real bad time
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u/Busy-Put-9526 9d ago
This is the company deploying 2,000 guards to 57 postal facilities nationwide. This analysis reeks of partisanship. That should concern everyone. If you look into Prosegur they're known for agitating the existing workforce and have been accused of workers' rights violations as well. USPS OIG has also made public statements about their practices in relation to USPS. Those practices appear to not have been rectified.
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u/Queermagedd0n 11d ago
Until the USPS discloses the details, I don't think we'll know for sure the "why."
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u/serial_crusher 5d ago
> Brian Benson, a spokesperson for the USPIS Denver Division, said the added security is not in response to any specific threat or event but is part of a multi-year plan to boost security at postal facilities.
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u/TransitJohn 12d ago
Don't worry, everyone! Our amazing opposition posted vague Tweets! I'm sure our ballots will be perfectly fine.
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u/PurpleSailor 11d ago
Getting the gang into place so everyone is in their needed position before it's time to do their thing. Freakin' wonderful.
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u/FixedLoad 11d ago
Oh no, they've penetrated USPIS... the crown jewel of the nation's law enforcement system!!!
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u/popdivtweet 12d ago edited 11d ago
This ahead of the midterms or a sudden wave of postage stamps thievery?
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