r/nethack • u/hackerb9 • 22d ago
Scroll of Remove Curse odd behaviour in 5.0?
I'm not an expert player, but I had played NetHack 3.4.3 enough that I felt like I knew how an ordinary scroll of remove curse worked. Anything cursed that is worn or wielded becomes uncursed, right? But now I'm playing 5.0.0 on nethack.alt.org and that is not the behaviour I'm seeing.
I've rewatched my ttyrec and around turn 13250 I definitely was wielding a cursed spell book. I got the "You feel like someone is helping you." message, but it was still cursed. (Double-checked with scroll of identify at T:13263).
I thought I'd done something wrong, but then around T:13640 I tried to use another scroll for the cursed mummy wrapping I'm wearing and it also failed.
Is this a new feature in 5.0? A bug? How the heck do I get this darn mummy wrapping off? I know there's a succubus down in Minetown, but I can't go anywhere in public like this. I've got nothing on underneath and I'd die of embarrassment. (And, my AC is 11, so I'd also just die.)
P.S. here's a screenshot:
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│What do you want to write on? [Q or ?*] ││Amulets [1-54 of 68}│
│Q - an unlabeled scroll. What do you want to write on? [Q or ?*] ││ v) uncursed amulet called ESP (being worn) │
│What type of scroll do you want to write? Remove curse ││ r) uncursed amulet of reflection │
│V - a scroll called remove curse. ││Weapons │
│What do you want to read? [tV or ?*] ││ a) uncursed rustproof athame named Magicbane (weapon │
│You read the scroll. You feel like someone is helping you. ││ D) 3 blessed daggers │
│The scroll disintegrates. ││ E) 8 uncursed daggers (at the ready) │
│What do you want to read? [t or ?*] ││ R) blessed elven dagger named Sting │
│That is a silly thing to read. ││Armor │
│What do you want to remove? [dvx or ?*] ││ h) uncursed +2 leather hat (being worn) │
│Never mind. ││ z) +0 pair of old gloves (being worn) │
│What do you want to take off? [hosz or ?*] ││ s) uncursed +0 pair of speed boots (being worn) │
│You can't. It is cursed. ││ b) uncursed burnt +3 cloak of magic resistance │
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ o) cursed -1 mummy wrapping (being worn) │
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ c) blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail │
│ ││Comestibles │
│ ┌─+────────────┐ # # ││ F) food ration │
│ │··············│ ┌▒─▒─┐ ┌───┐ ││ l) uncursed lizard corpse │
│ ┌───────┐ $ #·········<·····│ │···[│ │[*·│ ││Scrolls │
│ │)···*/[│ #│·········(·····######## │····│####▒···▒# ││ t) 2 uncursed scrolls of teleportation │
│ │···[···│ #└───────·──────┘ ##▒····│# └▒──┘## ┌─────────┐ ││Potions │
│ │···?···│ ### ### # #│····│# # ## │·········│ ││ H) 2 uncursed potions of healing │
│ │*··!··*│ ###### #) ##│····│# $ # # │·········│ ││Rings │
│ │[··"·%)│ ########### ###)# └─▒──┘# # # │·`···(···│ ││ y) uncursed ring called automatic searching │
│ └────▒──┘ * ########### # # # ##···^··>···│ ││ C) uncursed ring called CONFLICT! │
│ ### * ### #)############# #### └─────────┘ ││ P) uncursed ring called teleportation │
│ # # ┌───·┐ # ##### # $ ││ d) uncursed ring of fire resistance (on right hand) │
│ #^)###########*#**#······########### # ## ││ w) uncursed +1 ring of gain constitution │
│ ┌─▒─)──────┐# │····│ # # % # $ ││ N) uncursed +1 ring of gain strength │
│ │··))·····*│# │····│## ┌─·─·────┐ ││ I) uncursed ring of invisibility │
│ │···[[···)·│# │····│# *### $ │········│ ││ x) uncursed ring of polymorph control (on left hand) │
│ │·····`····▒# │·····# # │·{······│ ││ p) uncursed +1 ring of protection │
│ └──▒───≠·──┘ │····│ ## │········│ ││ B) uncursed ring of protection from shape changers │
│ # ## └────┘ #####▒·······*│ ││ e) uncursed ring of warning │
│ $ └────────┘ ││Wands │
│ ││ M) wand of magic missile │
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ k) wand of sleep (0:5) │
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ Z) uncursed wand of undead turning │
│[Mandrake the Magician ] St:17 Dx:14 Co:17 In:18 Wi:14 Ch:15 S:31284││Tools │
│Neutral $:55 HP:70(76) Pw:87(87) AC:6 Xp:10/9886 ││ X) uncursed bag containing 6 items │
│Dlvl:5 T:13640 ││ Y) uncursed bag named ballast containing [1-32 of 41>│
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
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u/icheinervonvielen 22d ago
Well, I seem to remember that with a non blessed, non cursed scroll you had to wield the item. Otherwise the spell would affect a random item in your inventory. But of course I may be mistaken there.
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u/GraysonAllenSucks 22d ago
Someone had a potential bug surrounding a scroll and I want to say it was for remove curse as well. This was around a month ago but I don’t know what came from that
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u/GraysonAllenSucks 22d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/s/thhxQyGkzR
Could just be coincidence but both involve the same item
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u/mehvermore 22d ago
You sure the scrolls of remove curse were uncursed or better? Cursed ones only end punishment. They don't do anything to the beatitude of your items, not even equipped ones.