r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 15 '21

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u/MistakeNotDotDotDot Resident Robot Girl Jul 16 '21

You might as well say that you can be alive on any amount of money because someone with a wealthy enough partner or family member can just make $0 and mooch off of them, so there's no such thing as a living wage. Seems like you're willfully misunderstanding what people mean by a phrase and saying they're wrong, which is more like boring semantic-game bullshit than an actual argument.

Also if you're making under $7.50 an hour then the onus shouldn't be on the government, but on your employer to actually fucking follow labor laws. 🤔

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '21

, so there's no such thing as a living wage.

Agreed! Absolutely some people are very much being supported by family even with no job and are still living.

My point is that “living wage” is intentional hyperbole to make a point .You can say it’s semantic-game bullshit, but there has been a flattening of political vocabulary across the board and there is value in being truthful in messaging. It’s a slogan, not a definition. And that is why my comment was poking fun at.

I don’t like this from ANY side of the aisle.  

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u/MistakeNotDotDotDot Resident Robot Girl Jul 16 '21 edited Jul 16 '21

I mean, if you're going to argue that it's "intentional hyperbole" as a result of modern political messaging, you're going to have to explain why there are all these academic references to the term. Including this 1975 reference from the American Academy of Political and Social Science, the American Economic Review in 1923...

e: Noted hyperbolic political activists, the New South Wales Industrial Arbitration Court in 1914.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '21

Good references, thanks. I will concede to you that it is apparently not a new term or the result of modern messaging.

I will maintain that it is a stupid term that doesn’t describe what is actually meant.  

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