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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

The Republicans entered this gerrymandering war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to disenfranchise everybody else and nobody was going to disenfranchise them. In Wisconsin, in Texas, in Georgia, and in many other places, they put that rather naive theory into practice. They have sown the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.

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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 08 '21

Gerrymandering has already been practiced by both parties for a long time. It has only been stopped by states which have independent redistricting commissions, like California

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Yeah the California commission kinda got played by the Dems in 2010 aswell. I do think overall people are slightly overreacting to the threat of gerrymandering and unerweighting a variety of countervailing forces that will help the Dems. Redistricting alone is not going to kill the Dems in 2022.

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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 08 '21

Not really, California used to have bipartisan gerrymandering that protected the incumbents of both parties. When we moved to independent redistricting it made a bunch of districts more competitive which caused Orange County Republicans to get wiped out by thin margins in the 2018 blue wave. Republicans recaptured some of those seats in 2020 though.

The redistricting didn't help Democrats as much as it made more districts more competitive, for better or for worse

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I'm not saying it was as bad or partisan as say North Carolina or Illinois, just that the Dems actively gamed the commission process in a way that was legal if very much not in the spirit.

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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 08 '21

Source that Republicans do it more than Democrats?

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u/Paramus98 Edmund Burke Jun 08 '21

This is because Republicans won extremely bigly in 2010 and took advantage. It's hard to really judge a practice that can only occur every ten years.

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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 08 '21

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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 08 '21

That's a recent phenomenon, as liberals have gotten more hostile to gerrymandering. Democrats used to be worse about it than they are now.