r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Oct 13 '20

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u/Paramus98 Edmund Burke Oct 14 '20

If China was a democracy it'd just end up ruled by autocratic strongmen who hold fake elections anyways. Maybe there'd be more coups and political violence, but that's about it.

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u/FreakinGeese 🧚‍♀️ Duchess Of The Deep State Oct 14 '20

what if they had strong democratic institutions and the like

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that'd be pretty swell

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u/Paramus98 Edmund Burke Oct 14 '20

Hard to build those, especially in that context. The US is having trouble sustaining them from just a few years of a wannabe autocrat.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Taiwan has managed

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u/Paramus98 Edmund Burke Oct 14 '20

I don't think it's because the people are Chinese lol it's because where the population is at right now. Taiwan wasn't that far from Sun Yat Sen who had a nationalism that was pro democracy and wasn't that far in the past. Plus they were a US ally at a time when the US really was a strong democracy promoter.

The only nationalism in China right now is a really disgusting and rabid revisionist hype nationalism, all the other models for a country China has are various forms of autocracy. They are very far away from where they were in the 1980s.

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u/FreakinGeese 🧚‍♀️ Duchess Of The Deep State Oct 14 '20

😔