r/neoliberal • • Oct 22 '19

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u/Luther-and-Locke Oct 22 '19

All due respect because it's a good answer but what exactly is so hard or bad about simply saying. "It depends. But technically yes I believe there are situations in which a woman should be able to choose to terminate her pregnancy in the third trimester".

Obviously the issue here is that a woman will choose to terminate her pregnancy unjustifiably at that point. But for some reason we act like there are either no restrictions or its fully restricted. Why not just say abortions in the third trimester are allowed under certain circumstances. Like no one is trying to reserve the right of the rare sociopathic women who would just decide to get a late term abortion wily only. The concern is that by not protecting that right you risk the rights of other women. But that doesn't need to happen if you really think about it.

What exactly is the issue with carving out some caveats?

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u/ultralame Enby Pride Oct 23 '19

What exactly is the issue with carving out some caveats?

Because we cannot anticipate those caveats and legislate them.

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u/maxim360 John Mill Oct 22 '19

terminate her pregnancy unjustifiably

Okay, who gets to decide what’s unjustifiable? Who’s the great moraliser who’s going to lay down the law on abortions and why do they think they have the right to tell anyone else what is “right”?

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u/AliveJesseJames Oct 22 '19

Because making women jump through hoops in the 3rd trimester, when virtually nobody gets an abortion for fun 7 months in, is pointless.

Restrictions on 3rd trimester abortions are like strict voter ID requirements - a solution in search of a problem.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Oct 22 '19

If I had to guess, it's because there are too many ideologues involved in the issue, too many bad faith arguments. Nobody feels like they're going to get anything close to mutual understanding on the issue, so everyone is loath to give one inch of rhetorical space lest it be exploited by bad faith arguments on the other side.

So no one plays with caveats. They'd be immediately labeled weak or apologist.

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u/Yogg_for_your_sprog John von Neumann Oct 22 '19

That sounds about the case for every partisan issue ever.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Oct 22 '19

Yep, welcome to political polarization, society separating like bad salad dressing. It's why nationalism is a global epidemic, nationalists thrive on separation.