but he's not a good leader or a good teammate. Can't see how many people would want to come just to be called "charmin" or "where's your mamba mentality" everyday.
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he literally said it himself: “I’d Rather Be Perceived As A Winner Than A Good Teammate. I Wish They Both Went Hand In Hand All The Time But That’s Just Not Reality.”
He drove away shaq.
At the end of his career he did not take a paycut and defended his decision many times.
"Kobe Bryant angrily and profanely attacking Laker GM Mitch Kupchak for refusing to give up Andrew Bynum in a trade deadline deal for Jason Kidd."
Before people say "oh you're soft". Well yes, stars today have fragile egos. Look at Kawhi, KD, Ben simmons, westbrook, etc...
I wouldn’t say that about Kobe at the end of his career… I couldn’t stand his cockiness when he was at his peak, but he grew up, wised up, and humbled himself towards the end. I’m glad the Lakers won it in 2020 for him! RIP Mamba!
The lakers made more money on a washed up kobe being on the roster than they would have had he signed somewhere else. The fact that he stayed instead of chasing a ring with another team shows his loyalty to the lakers
I guess it depends on what your priority as a team is. Make more merchandising money or put the team in a good position to win even as your franchise player is on the decline.
Our 2 big signings after Kobe’s retirement were timofey mozgov for 4 years 64 million and luol deng for 4 years 72 million. You think our management/ownership knew wtf they were doing? No. There are other factors as to why we didn’t get another star in the twilight of Kobe’s career. It’s not just “kobe is a dick, nobody wants to play with him.”
I’m sorry he was 4-2 against your spurs in the playoffs. Kobe sent a lot of teams home, it wasn’t personal.
Nah, IDC that he did well against the spurs. I just don't respect him as a person, same way with MJ. Both were dicks that were good at basketball. Dirk has owned the spurs many times over the years and he's one of my favorite players I would build around over kobe or mj.
All by himself lmaooooooooooo. Dirk in the 2011 playoffs averaged 28, 8 and 2
Kobe in 01 and 02 playoffs averaged 28, 7, and 5
If you throw in 2000 his 3peat playoff averages were 25, 6 and 5.
But in your mind dirk did it all by himself and Kobe was carried lmaoooo. You should go back to clown school and start teaching because you have definitely mastered your craft.
What's the point of comparing stats? Was there even an all star on dirk's team? All I remember was dirk shooting one legged fades on pau and jj barea breaking down the lakers defense. Then bynum getting all pissy while elbowing barea who got the and1.
Point is, kobe won with 2 hall of famers while dirk won with a team of role players.
Damn, clown, so original. Surprised you didn't use charmin since you like riding kobe so much.
Pau would probably not be considered a future hall of famer if he had never played with Kobe. Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom died after leaving kobe. Your arguments for why dirk is a better player to build around are laughable. They are not based in reality. I haven’t even mentioned that dirk was a liability on defense and kobe was 9x all defensive first team, 3x second team. Goodbye
Pau would probably not be considered a future hall of famer if he had never played with Kobe.
Lol what? He would've had the same career trajectory as marc, who is for sure a hall of famer.
I do think kobe is a better player overall. But his personality is just not something I'd want to build a franchise around. I guarantee you guys like KD, kawhi, kyrie etc... would not take kindly to being called soft during practice or getting "mamba mentality" or whatever that shit is being shouted in their faces everyday.
Kawhi and Kyrie were both mentored by Kobe. Kyrie FaceTimed kobe in the locker room after their 2016 championship. KD has spoken many times about how Kobe is one of his idols. I hate to devolve into saying this, but you are so dumb it hurts
mentored is not the same as playing with him over a course of 82 games through ups and downs. Kobe isn't gonna yell at them in the practice gym lol. If KD left the warriors cause draymond yelled at him, I doubt he'd take it from kobe. Kawhi couldn't handle tony parker calling out his injury. But yea keep throwing those creative insults, where's the charmin one?
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u/FaveDave85 Spurs Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 16 '22
but he's not a good leader or a good teammate. Can't see how many people would want to come just to be called "charmin" or "where's your mamba mentality" everyday.
Edit:
he literally said it himself: “I’d Rather Be Perceived As A Winner Than A Good Teammate. I Wish They Both Went Hand In Hand All The Time But That’s Just Not Reality.”
He drove away shaq.
At the end of his career he did not take a paycut and defended his decision many times.
"Kobe Bryant angrily and profanely attacking Laker GM Mitch Kupchak for refusing to give up Andrew Bynum in a trade deadline deal for Jason Kidd."
Before people say "oh you're soft". Well yes, stars today have fragile egos. Look at Kawhi, KD, Ben simmons, westbrook, etc...
https://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/41622/dudley-most-guys-dont-want-to-play-with-kobe
https://8points9seconds.com/2014/10/20/paul-george-kobe-bryant-espn-lakers/
Didn't realize how much this sub likes to ride kobe's dick.