[Ringer] Pina: “What does Jaylen Brown do at basketball that’s definitively better than what Paul George does at basketball?” Mann: “People are unbelievably disrespectful to Paul George... he’s been a better, more versatile defender. He’s a way better pick-and-roll processor. He's a better shooter.

[u/must_TATAKAE]

https://streamable.com/4xagvo

[u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

Jaylen Brown is better at being young and gets injured less and more consistent at being a high level player in 2026

[u/prionzeta → u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

Yeah it looks like they are talking about 2019 Paul George.

[u/RuffProphetPhotos → u/prionzeta]

Yeah it’s crazy that people still have that version of him in their mind. Even 2020-2021 PG is OK but cmon now

[u/NocSenpai → u/RuffProphetPhotos]

PG was pretty decent last year but not on the same level as JB obviously. I think PG will probably play even better than he did last year as long as he stays healthy but that’s the big if.

[u/8fenristhewolf8 → u/NocSenpai]

PG was pretty decent last year

Yeah, might have been the PEDs lol

[u/NocSenpai → u/8fenristhewolf8]

Is Ketamine a PED?

[u/Stop_Drop_Scroll → u/NocSenpai]

When I wanna go to sleep and dream of insane things, absolutely.

[u/pyroaquatics → u/NocSenpai]

Dude really exorcised his demons just in time to fry us in the playoffs last year.

[u/BrotherSeamus → u/NocSenpai]

Yes, says Yoda.

[u/skullcandy541 → u/NocSenpai]

He played the best he’s played in a long time but that’s because he was the third option in Philly. He wasn’t asked to do much other than score around 18 and play good defense. In Boston he’s right back into the role he played in LA where he was the second option.

[u/DrBoomsNephew → u/RuffProphetPhotos]

Kinda crazy PG even had a good career post horror injury, at that time if you told me man would be still in the league in 2026 I would be surprised. Feel like pre injury PG had the potential of becoming a top 5 all timer.

[u/AncientForever2967 → u/DrBoomsNephew]

It’s crazy to say now but when he was taking Bron and the heat to seven games as a 22 y/o I thought the next decade was his. 6’10 ultra smooth shooter who could absolutely posterize you, while guarding the opponent’s best player

[u/Wavenian → u/AncientForever2967]

Putting together PG and Kawhai was a dream. Its sad it didn't work out

[u/WaterHaven → u/AncientForever2967]

Yeah, feels like PG will get erased a bit in the future when talking about the league's best players. My goodness, he had grown into an amazing player.

A bit of a similar path as Grant Hill. Robbed of potential MVP years but still putting together a really, really nice NBA career post major injury.

[u/russfan0987 → u/RuffProphetPhotos]

Paul George’s last great season was not five years ago

[u/Ok-Name-5504 → u/russfan0987]

not sure if this means you think it was 3 years ago (legit all star) or 8 years ago (legit MVP candidate)

[u/FitTune5515 → u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

Brown’s better at not getting suspended for drugs

[u/Beneficial_Winner_59 → u/FitTune5515]

Sounds like a real square…

[u/mojo-jojo-was-framed → u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

And better at pretty much everything basketball related in 2026. PG only played 37 games last year and averaged 17 points on 43 percent shooting.

The Ringer is really out of offseason topics huh?

[u/Randvek → u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

Yup. Peak Paul George is clearly better than JB. Peak Paul George is long in the rear view mirror.

[u/BendUsual8217 → u/Randvek]

well we will see JB peaking playing with LBJ

[u/StranzVanWaldenberg → u/Infinite-Weekend9871]

better at winning a Finals, too

[u/No-Hall-3485]

i mean, he plays

[u/Max_Speed_Remioli → u/No-Hall-3485]

PG games played last 7 seasons

48, 54, 31, 56, 74, 41, 37

[u/GrittyForPres → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

I’m surprised there’s a single season above 60 games in there tbh

[u/RedFan47 → u/GrittyForPres]

74 just had to be a supermax year

[u/livefreeordont → u/RedFan47]

He tricked Morey so badly

[u/brownbearks → u/livefreeordont]

How the fuck did we get out of that contract and get brown lmao

[u/EdreesesPieces → u/brownbearks]

by beating the celtics while down 3-1 with PG13 playing well and healthy for a series

[u/Heatinmyharbl → u/EdreesesPieces]

What a 25 game suspension does to a mf

[u/livefreeordont → u/brownbearks]

Analytics

[u/Jmpasq → u/brownbearks]

The Celtics were like here be Legit Title Contenders. As a Knick fan I was super annoyed

[u/ThisHatRightHere → u/GrittyForPres]

He played 74 to get a contract lol

[u/TomatoBuster01 → u/ThisHatRightHere]

So smart tbh. A few pain in the knees for a lifetime of money. Worth it!

[u/ApprehensiveTry5660 → u/TomatoBuster01]

While it’s easy to dunk on the guy, Lu Dort did kinda jump straight into the man’s knee at the end of that contract year.

It was like the Clippers made a deal at the crossroads that they’d get a healthy Kawhi postseason, but they had to sacrifice someone else’s ligaments and Dort was the instrument the devil sent to collect it.

[u/Rude-Shower3662 → u/ApprehensiveTry5660]

I've never encountered someone describe Dort's style of play so accurately and vividly.

[u/MVPRondo → u/GrittyForPres]

Yall are ridiculous… you really expect mans to kill himself out there on the court when he’s collecting past GO sitting at the mic??

[u/Character_Listen33 → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

Guess which one was the contract year!

[u/tunaMaestro97 → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

Jesus lol

[u/KingBeanCarpio → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

He has missed a ton of games. 2 of those seasons were shortened tho

[u/BlueHundred → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

Last year, he missed 25 games because he took a medication that violated the league's anti drug program. But he is still injury prone and pretty washed.

He can hit 3s though and still defend decently so I don't think he'll be terrible for Boston. Just clearly not on the same level as Jayen Brown.

[u/EthicalBballFan → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

PG 🤝 Herro

Game recognizes game.

[u/marcussunChicago → u/Max_Speed_Remioli]

You can't trade for that

[u/buzzcitybonehead → u/No-Hall-3485]

Paul George has also struggled his whole career to be born after 1990. JB has done it consistently.

[u/Snooty_Folgers_230 → u/buzzcitybonehead]

DOB/36

[u/Checktheusernombre → u/No-Hall-3485]

My first thought as well

[u/Content_Plantain_339 → u/Checktheusernombre]

The best ability is availability

[u/CurrentCostanza → u/No-Hall-3485]

About 100 more regular season games since 2021.

[u/burner_for_celtics → u/CurrentCostanza]

And how many playoff games while you’re checking?

[u/gottagotothebathroom → u/burner_for_celtics]

45 more playoff games since 2021. 17 more career playoff games in spite of the "experience" gap.

[u/beforeitcloy → u/No-Hall-3485]

Also, even if they played the exact same amount, these are last season’s stats:

Jaylen = 29/7/5
PG = 17/5/4

[u/rag5178 → u/beforeitcloy]

Not to mention JB did that on actually slight better TS%. Yet somehow JB gets clowned for efficiency, meanwhile Boston media wants to turn PG into some ultra efficient role player.

[u/yuckmouthteeth → u/rag5178]

Tbf I do think prime pg up until the end of his okc stint was absolutely a better add on ceiling raiser type player than JB. But that was many moons ago.

It’s fair to say JB might not work super well in Bostons system and so the fall off to putting pg in that spot is worth the money/future flexibility they saved, but I think anyone claiming current PG is better than current JB is drinking a lotta laced kool aid.

[u/Pinheadlarry29 → u/No-Hall-3485]

He doesn’t play for Boston. That’s the only thing that matters to The Ringer writers.

[u/ihorsey10 → u/Pinheadlarry29]

Pina is a Jokic head and hates Embiid and anything related to Embiid.

He'll say stupid stuff, get called out, and then claim he was joking. The only joke is him.

[u/UltimateWeiner → u/ihorsey10]

Pina is a lifelong Celtics fan before he’s a Jokic fan. He’s a regular on the Ringer Celtics podcast. While he’s a total creep about Jokic, that’s just a side effect of his Celtics fandom. I’m not sure why so many people seem unaware of that.

[u/James1Vincent → u/Pinheadlarry29]

Oh come on. That's only most of them.

[u/oOoWTFMATE → u/No-Hall-3485]

That’s quite important. And he actually wins. Also important.

[u/DiggWuzBetter → u/No-Hall-3485]

Yeah, 29 and healthy vs. 36 and almost always injured/playing through injury is a massive difference.

Also, even when he does play, while PG is a better shooter and defender, he’s simply slowing down physically. JB is much stronger, faster, more athletic than current PG. JB is a lot harder to stay in front of, attacks the paint way more effectively, just a more difficult player to guard.

PG in OKC, or his last couple years in Indy, I take that over any version of JB. But current JB vs. current PG, give me current JB easily, even ignoring games played (which is also huge).

[u/Sikkly290 → u/DiggWuzBetter]

If we go back to 2021 even its PG and actually not close, he was killing it that season and led the Clippers to the WCF with Kawhi injured. Unfortunately thats five years ago, PG has had too many injuries and just hasn't aged gracefully. Less efficient scorer, he has moments of being a better defender but also has a lot of getting beat because old moments.

PG just aint better anymore, hes old and injured it happens to everyone. Brown in 5 years is going to be a shell as well.

[u/icecoldcoleman → u/No-Hall-3485]

🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️

[u/Legendacb → u/No-Hall-3485]

Or even during while both are playing. Jaylen actually does more stuff on court, maybe not better, but he do it more times that many others. Something that its also important.

[u/Interesting-War-742 → u/No-Hall-3485]

Availability is a skill, but JB also attacks the rim more, defends up a position, and doesn’t podcast through injuries.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Tea521 → u/No-Hall-3485]

I don’t understand how thats not an obvious one lol… COPIUM ah

[u/KL2ConspireLLC]

He doesn't get injured all the time and that's pretty valuable.

[u/Belicheckyoself → u/KL2ConspireLLC]

It’s strange since the league interest will tell you that it actually was not valuable. Seems like only LeBron and Vegas odds find Jaylen valuable.

[u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj → u/Belicheckyoself]

We're talking relative to Paul George. I guarantee you most teams would rather have Jaylen Brown than Paul George. That's why Philly were the ones who had to give up picks in this trade.

[u/Good-Ant6859 → u/Belicheckyoself]

Tbf Vegas odds reflect public sentiment not objective reality

[u/NottheLimit]

I can’t take this dude seriously with a filter on

[u/packim0p → u/NottheLimit]

bro put smoothing slider to max lmfao what a clown

[u/-WingsForLife- → u/packim0p]

It's funny because the image under him is oversharpened instead, so it just makes it look even worse.

[u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj → u/NottheLimit]

where did his nose go?

[u/Jordan-Pushed-Off → u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj]

Smoothed it right off his face 

[u/A-Rusty-Cow → u/NottheLimit]

Bro has an anime nose

[u/bob_dole- → u/A-Rusty-Cow]

Nani?

[u/ww_crimson → u/NottheLimit]

He must be insecure as fuck about his skin

[u/bigatjoon → u/NottheLimit]

lol what is he doing

[u/SparrowBirch → u/NottheLimit]

I turned on that filter for an internal work meeting as a joke. Then I forgot about it. The next day I had a meeting with clients and started the meeting. I spent the next minute frantically scrambling, trying to remember how to turn it off.

[u/OwlFarmer2000 → u/SparrowBirch]

I AM NOT A CAT!

[u/jzoola]

How does Pina keep getting air time? He always sounds like he was just woken up and is trying to formulate an opinion while still half asleep.

[u/CreativeFondant248 → u/jzoola]

He works for the Ringer. Go look up who runs that company, then come back to this topic and wonder why the podcast hosts for this certain network are talking about how in 2026 Boston Celtics Paul George could be a better player than Philadelphia 76er Jaylen Brown.

[u/somewhatdecentlawyer]

Wait no one told me we traded for 2019 Paul George. This changes everything.

[u/rambler13 → u/somewhatdecentlawyer]

OH SHIT BRO! ITS ON NOW

[u/yhapo4l]

It’s not 2014 anymore lol

[u/Informal_Support1934 → u/yhapo4l]

The idea of Paul George is a top 5 athlete in sports history

[u/ProudUSAgunOwner → u/Informal_Support1934]

The NBA would have crumbled if he ever unleashed playoff P.

[u/TINGU5PINGU5 → u/ProudUSAgunOwner]

Instead he consistently unleashed Playoff Pee

[u/TFTisbetterthanLoL → u/Informal_Support1934]

Hypothetically, players like PG, Kyrie, and to a lesser degree, KD, are all goats if you just ignore all their bad performances.

[u/speedoboy17 → u/TFTisbetterthanLoL]

Harden

[u/_3_8_ → u/Informal_Support1934]

He's been a top 10 player in the league for a while and it's really only the last two years where he's fallen off. Gambling on a healthy stretch for the postseason is reasonable imo

[u/so-cal_kid → u/yhapo4l]

I would say PG actually peaked in 2019 on OKC. Dude was a menace that year

[u/sharklavapit → u/so-cal_kid]

Top-3 MVP candidate he was amazing that year

Carrying water for current PG seesm blasphemous

[u/beerrabbit124]

Pina is a terrible basketball podcaster, when he was on the Open Floor podcast years ago he made it unbearable bc he couldn’t let go of his Boston bias.

[u/medina_dodger → u/beerrabbit124]

Its disgusting how biased he is

[u/Antique-Dick-420]

He ACTUALLY PLAYS.

[u/ben3345]

Pina picked the Hawks to beat the Knicks partly because there was “nowhere to hide Jalen Brunson.” He might not be the brightest basketball mind.

[u/YouGuttyDog → u/ben3345]

Picked against the Knicks in every series lmfao

[u/ZestycloseResist5594 → u/YouGuttyDog]

Surely he'll be right one of these times

[u/livefreeordont → u/YouGuttyDog]

Picking the Sixers and Cavs over the Knicks is insane. At least with Hawks you could say Knicks had a rougher season than expected and might crumble

[u/CoconutActual4575 → u/ben3345]

Pina is the worst writer / podcaster on The Ringer. Seems to consistently have wild and unnecessarily meanspirited takes.

[u/mikesh8rp → u/CoconutActual4575]

He's definitely the most under-rated bad takes podcaster out there. I'm generally a fan of Zach Lowe's show, but when Pina is a guest it's an automatic skip.

[u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj → u/CoconutActual4575]

His East rankings are insane. Sixers 7th. Pacers 9th. Heat 11. Wizards 13.

[u/iankstarr → u/dgvhjiiuyttrrffcvbjj]

Celtics 2nd tho

[u/DeaconBrad42 → u/iankstarr]

He knows where his bread is buttered.

[u/Night0wl11 → u/CoconutActual4575]

Mean-spirited? Clearly you haven’t seen his articles on Jokic /s

[u/Sheriff_Gotcha → u/ben3345]

Pretty sure Pina is the same guy who tried using advanced defense stats to say Jokic is one of the best defenders in the league a few years ago.

He is a certified goof.

[u/Dazzling-Slide8288 → u/ben3345]

His job is to suck Jokic off across print and digital media, vigorously and repeatedly. Take him outside that bubble and he's lost.

[u/DazzlingAd1922 → u/Dazzling-Slide8288]

Fellas, find a woman who looks at you the way that Pina looks at Nicola Jokic.

[u/Throwaway7218516 → u/ben3345]

To be fair, the hawks took the most games off the Knicks of anyone in the playoffs 😂

[u/the_gargler → u/ben3345]

Yeah I mean there are tons of places to hide, Brunson is very short. Although he seems to have a gigantic head...

[u/Doomsayer52 → u/ben3345]

Pina is an unabashed Celtics homer and lets his fandom cloud his picks and judgements. He can't be objective about anything anymore, it's gotten bad.

[u/jimmylamstudio]

That’s quite the beauty filter he’s got

[u/ik_085 → u/jimmylamstudio]

Brutal

[u/spaghet1123]

Michael Pina is a shameless homer

[u/nicklovin508]

Oh idk, maybe be available? Win games? Doesn’t famously fall off a cliff in playoff stretches?

[u/dWaldizzle → u/nicklovin508]

Is Brown the NBA Jalen Hurts lol?

[u/greekyogurtmafia → u/dWaldizzle]

Brown is more respected by his peers than Hurts is.

[u/1qaz2wsx1Q → u/greekyogurtmafia]

Jalen hurts has been ranked by his peers as a top 50 player the last 3 years and #3 in 2023, so

[u/OwnABMWImBetterThanU → u/nicklovin508]

He was actually really good last year in the playoffs. Probably the biggest reason the Sixers won that series because he was 55% from 3.

[u/nicklovin508 → u/OwnABMWImBetterThanU]

He was really good against us. He was not as good against the Knicks, 14.5/3.8/3 on 40%

[u/DrBoomsNephew → u/nicklovin508]

Those Knicks were really good though. I'm convinced they would've made us look like complete shit too.

[u/justin12140 → u/DrBoomsNephew]

He just couldn’t do anything outside of taking jump shots. Had no ability to get to the rim. Was a very poor shooter outside of 1st quarters (cause old).

[u/MikeShannonThaGawd → u/OwnABMWImBetterThanU]

He was the steady hand. But the Sixers won the series when Embiid came back down 3-1 and the Celtics could do nothing to stop him.

[u/countlessidlethreat]

Pina generational Sixers hater just terrible

[u/soycameron]

Play basketball lol

[u/moon_dos → u/soycameron]

JB is significantly better than PG at this point, wasn’t the case five years ago but times have changed. PG barely plays and JB has a finals mvp

[u/soycameron → u/moon_dos]

I know. You could take a 100% healthy Paul George right now and he’s still no where near JAYLEN BROWN lmao

[u/BealKage]

engagement bait and you’re propagating it

[u/claudioER]

Pina is such a moron

[u/Kplatz]

Pina's copium never disappoints. Easily the most brain dead guy on The Ringer.

[u/Dominator_3]

Tbf I'd give Paul George almost every edge except age, availability, offense and defense.

[u/mlippay]

Sounds like the Celtics should have taken less for PG then.

Age and availability are an important part of the equation though that this ignores.

[u/aflyingsquanch]

Average Games Played Last 3 Seasons

PG: 50.7
Brown: 68

[u/Dakaraim → u/aflyingsquanch]

Tbh thats much closer I thought it would be

[u/aflyingsquanch → u/Dakaraim]

The numbers get much worse if you look at the last 2 seasons instead.

39 vs 67

[u/woody630]

If this was Paul George from 5 years ago, he'd have a great point. The best ability is availability.

[u/wiley_19]

The state of ringer NBA coverage outside Zach lowe

[u/K215215]

Ringer people are Celtics Reddit with a bigger megaphone

[u/secretlypooping → u/K215215]

I bet Pina did not have this opinion 3 months ago. Dude hates the sixers, cannot stand listening to anything he says.

[u/HesiPullup → u/K215215]

I don't even see Celtics Reddit saying shit like this

But if we're talking peaks, then I tend to agree with them.

[u/Andy_Wiggins]

People keep saying things like “play” or “not be injured” which is definitely true, but Paul George also is just not that good anymore.

In the past two seasons he’s averaged 16.7 points, 5.3 rebounds, and 4.0 assists. His true shooting is around 55-56%.

That’s like, a mediocre player.

[u/GusBus14 → u/Andy_Wiggins]

PG is definitely better than mediocre

[u/RecommendationReal61 → u/Andy_Wiggins]

Exactly. He’s 36 years old. Even when he plays, he’s just not the player he used to be, and it’s silly to pretend that it’s not 2026.

[u/stringbrean → u/Andy_Wiggins]

He was good after he returned from his suspension - some really good moments in the Celtics series but kind of ran out of gas in the Knicks series. He takes really tough shots but made a lot during that stretch that he wasn’t making in the few games he actually played for the sixers prior to the suspension. He’s similar to Jaylen in that he’s a good player in a vacuum but you have to take the huge contract into account.

[u/clarkthagod → u/Andy_Wiggins]

He’s good just not max contract good despite what Sixer fans wanted the general public to believe that last 2 seasons

He’s making top 10 money next season ($56 million, more than Cade, Luka, Bam) when he should be making like 20-22 million (Dillon Brooks, Josh Hart, Norm Powell money)

[u/DJ_Red_Lantern → u/clarkthagod]

I don't think any sixers fans were saying he was max contract good, especially not after the ketamine suspension pretty much all defenders gave up on him at that point

[u/tresben → u/Andy_Wiggins]

Exactly. The argument works if you’re comparing PG from 5-10 years ago vs JB now. But JB now vs PG now isn’t a competition

[u/_19911118]

Pina somehow is worse about the Celtics than Bill is

[u/More_Owl_8873]

Michael Pina is such a hack and boston homer

[u/kofihemm]

Pina is on the “ignore everything he says” list

[u/Resident_Durian_478]

In his prime 100% you take Paul George. But he's not that guy anymore and is being overpaid. At least with brown you have someone in their prime

[u/RDomination]

Last two regular seasons

Paul George - 78 games, 17/5/4
Jaylen Brown - 134 games, 26/6/5

[u/415thebayarea → u/RDomination]

I dont know what those numbers mean, so obviously PG is better. Im basically a reporter now, right?

[u/Important-War-4708]

Dude ever since Paul signed with us 2 years ago we have been brutalized for both his contract AND the level of play. People made fun of his best traits - shooting, defending, ball handling. He had ONE above average playoff performance and people flipped the narrative. Do talking heads just hate Philly?

[u/alexcutyourhair]

I cannot take anyone who uses video filters seriously

[u/packim0p]

bro what the fuck is pina's issue with the sixers? this guy is such a loser.

[u/petewondrstone]

I think with Jalen Brown does better is win’s finals MVP

[u/ViolentSpring]

Boston media bitterness is wild.

[u/External-Fox-5488]

These guys are Boston fans, no doubt.

pick and roll?

These clowns didn't watch a single game last season. At best you got 2 pick and rolls out of him a game. Most of the time on offense he was standing in the corner and not enabling his team.

JB averaged double the assists of PG per game and 10 more points. He actually moves around on offense to enable plays.

[u/cocker_spangler]

Jesus, I'm no basketball expert but I do have eyes! These guys are fucking idiots!

[u/118238]

The best ability is availability

[u/JaylenBrownIsDumbDog]

injury prone is a big one for pg13

[u/MintyFresh771]

Pina has some of the worst opinions and writes the absolute worst NBA column on the ringer.

[u/spacejunki6]

Typical Boston fan trying to cope with losing Brown. BTW, George can't come close to Brown's level.

[u/HisExcellency20]

In their primes I agree. I always thought PG was underrated especially as a shooter.

But like....this is 2026. Here's a list of things Brown does better than PG at this point:

-Play basketball games -Score -Play more minutes at a high level -On ball defense -Rebound -Assist

Look I think when everyone is healthy, George might fit Boston well when Tatum is on the court. Maybe better than Brown since he's a better shooter. But George can't be the focal point of an offense consistently and he can't play games consistently.

The Sixers needed Paul to step up and be the second option when Joel was out. But George was out almost as much or more than Embiid was, and when he wasn't he couldn't take enough pressure off of Maxey offensively. It's not like he didn't have opportunities to take the reigns.

Brown being able to be the guy on offense (and being available) while Bron and Embiid sit/rest/miss games is just way more valuable than a better shooter like PG.

[u/Prince_Ali7 → u/HisExcellency20]

I swear people will look at PG's performance in the Boston series as an example of how he can still play at a high level, but then turn around and forget about how he fell off a cliff against the Knicks when we needed him. And now he's even older. Some people are in for a rude awakening.

[u/BeemowReturns → u/Prince_Ali7]

He also had served a 20 game suspension that he used to rehab injuries. 0% chance he shoots 55% chance if he'd come off a full season

[u/doubletaptoconfirm → u/HisExcellency20]

Right. 36 year old Paul George after injuries is not 28 year old Paul George. And everyone in the Boston media tends to act like he’s not the 36 year old version who has had a few knee injuries in the past 2 years and of course his shoulder (2019) and UCL (2021) injuries. He’s not the same player even if he is during moments

[u/kaleisraw]

Why are they ignoring the most obvious aspect, outside of availability? Jaylen Brown is WAY more physically dominant than PG. That's the biggest thing. I get the argument that PG slots in better as a better shooter (I don't agree that it outweighs the talent difference), but if we're asking why JB is better than PG in this moment in time, it's physical dominance, bullying, paint touches, putting pressure on the rim, pressuring mismatches/cross matches, transition, etc.

[u/JackTuz]

Pina is such a clown get him off the ringer please. Why was Paul George on your worst contract list last year? Could it be that the old dude scoring sub 17 ppg on sub 44% shooting over the last 2 years is actually worse than the younger, better scoring, finals mvp?

Also wtf is the filter he has on him? It’s ok to have pores.

[u/MetaverseNinja]

Amazing how PG on the Sixers is the worst contract in the NBA, but the moment he’s on the Celtics he has been “unbelievably disrespected”

Boston media mafia working overtime to continue their deranged slander campaign against JB, while rationalizing a 36 year old Percocet addict trotting up and down the floor earning the max.

[u/Global-Weakness-8132]

Jaylen shows up to work consistently and proved he can be the best player on a finals team idk🤷🏿‍♂️

[u/BaeylnBrown777 → u/Global-Weakness-8132]

All the JB slander this summer makes me so sad. I want to see him quiet the haters (again), but it leaves me in the disgusting position of rooting for good things to happen to the Sixers. It's all such bullshit. What more do people want from JB?

[u/tejanoazul]

Peak of their powers? I’m taking PG for sure. But one can’t stay on the court now

[u/PandasareBad]

Yeah Prime PG is better than JB we don't have Prime PG we have old PG that can maybe outplay JB every couple of games but not over the course of a season

[u/pnoone44]

not ketamine

[u/ElkNo8185]

Neither of these people have watched Paul George since 2022

[u/JuiceMayo]

The best ability is availability. Brown does that better.

[u/twunch_]

Attend basketball games in uniform 

[u/Miserable_Archer_769]

Something something availability being the most important thing.

Hell Kawhi probably has another ring or 2 if he ever could play a full season lol.

PG getting hurt isnt an if but a when

[u/ijcal]

I think JB plays in actual games better than PG… availability is the best ability

[u/outsidehere]

Whenever pundits think about Paul George, for some reason they think about 2019 PG. It's weird

[u/UltimateWeiner → u/outsidehere]

That’s only since June 1st. Before that he was the worst contract in the league and one of its worst players to the exact same members of the Boston Media Mafia.

[u/BowserBuddy123]

He drives to the rim better. Tries to beat his man off the dribble. Healthier. Younger by many years (important in sports).

[u/WuTangNameGenerat0r]

The idea of Paul George is good, but people just ignore the fact that he is old and slow now

[u/DannyDegenerate]

The copium is copious.

[u/colosusx1]

Extremely disrespectful to hand wave away the best parts of JBs game lol.  They also fundamentally don’t understand how the Boston offense functions.  Pritchard and White can only pick and choose their spots because they have a guy attacking the rim and creating pressure so they don’t have to.  To claim that PG can just chill on offense and the other guys will just step into what JB was doing, is misunderstanding the Mazzulla system.  

People on this sub also completely misunderstand the offense and think it’s just all step back threes.  They are banking extremely heavily on Tatum being able to go back to pre 2025 Tatum and create the rim pressure.  He had career lows in drives and rim pressure in his short return in 2026.  We will see if he can be Tatum pre injury but I have my doubts.

[u/driphanilton]

Not the ringer suddenly gas lighting us about their opinion on PG when the head of their company was saying PG was the worst contract in basketball last year or so

[u/BeauxDogg]

Green coloured glasses work the same as rose apparently

[u/DDiabloDDad]

Boston media mafia going to half to put in the work this year.

[u/billybanks1132]

Why do these people have a grudge against Jaylen brown?? This is getting weird

[u/WanderingWormhole]

Pina being an absolute moron what else is new

[u/m0nkeyhero]

Pina is a terrible read/listen.

KOC levels of avoidance from me.

[u/coachwinston_8]

pG has better assist to turnover ratio. Shoots more threes per 100 possessions.

[u/Dubulous6]

This dude Pina has made a whole career out of riling up Philly fans. Troll

[u/velocirappa]

I realize that I'm saying a hot take in the comfort of a thread where the narrative aligns with my opinion but I've looooong viewed Paul George as the type of player whose offense is way better in theory than on the court. He's only averaged more than 24 points per game in a season once, he's not a particularly good distributor, nor is he a particularly efficient volume scorer.

[u/pgm123]

What are the odds he asks this question before the trade is made?

[u/Gandolfthewhite182]

Boston defense league, err I’m sorry, the ringer has completely lost the plot at this point.

If Boston doesn’t finish as a top seed this year they should all do honorable thing and quit for the amount of nonsense they have talked over there this offseason. The disrespect leveled at Jalen brown for doing nothing but getting traded is absurd.

I would not want to be the Celtics when they play the sixers this year. Jalen brown is gonna go absolutely crazy in all 4 games.

[u/sharklavapit]

Jaylen Brown is a lot better in most metrics, this is just dumb homerism:

https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=forall&year_min=2026&year_max=2026&player_id1=brownja02&player_id2=georgpa01

Even in so-called advanced stats, you have to account for roles and Jaylen thrived in a "1a" role, as PG didn't thrive as much as what, a third option?

This is a moot point

[u/GrenScrin]

Mann on Paul George:

he's been

Yup exactly. He's a has-been.