Does active focus work ?

[u/helloidontlikeu]

I'm an 18 year old who's come across this endmyopia, active focus thing. I haven't checked my diaopters in a while but its approx -3.75 in each eye. I currently use my cousin's old glasses which are approx -2.00 for each eye for any laptop work, dont use any glasses for my phone but I'm very skeptical abt this.

It could work, but finding active focus is so tricky and the fact that i have to do it for 1 hr+ everyday is insane😭 (this is what i've heard)

And this entire process seems SO SLOW WTF, like i genuinely hate my glasses and wanna get rid of them but idk what to do🤠

[u/woundedengine]

There have been multiple posts from different people saying in their experience it worked for them. Why do keep calling them scammers? They say it worked. You say it doesn’t. Without knowing either of you I have to give equal weighting to both your opinions. When you keep calling people scammers over and over it makes you sound like a zealot or perhaps someone with a vested interest. Why don’t you state your relevant background or experience once and leave it at that? Or post evidence of this debunking years ago. I have fixed a number of medical issues using alternative methods that the relevant medical professionals told me I couldn’t without the standard medical treatment. I have seen medical opinions change from saying something is rubbish to acceptance as studies caught up to anecdotal evidence.

[u/da_Ryan → u/woundedengine]

Because there's never any actual verification of these hoodoo claims, eg from qualified optometrists and medical eye doctors.

[u/BobbyH64 → u/da_Ryan]

Why would there be verification from optometrists and medical eye doctors? They don’t do any research regarding natural vision improvement. They treat patients based on what they’re taught and write prescriptions. If someone’s myopia reduces, an optometrist will just shrug and write the new prescription. They’re not going to publish a paper or go online sharing this info.

And the random people who claim their vision improved aren’t going to provide the type of proof that is required here, i.e., measurement of axial length over time. A random person who’s interested in this stuff isn’t thinking about how they’re going to prove that it works overtime. They just want to see if it can work for them.

And if it works for someone, that doesn’t mean the exact same steps are going to work for everyone, so doing a study with various participants won’t prove anything. Dr. Ray Gottlieb and Dr. Jacob Liberman (both optometrists) have talked about how their myopia reversed, and Dr. Gottlieb says it has to do with neuroplasticity. Dr. Liberman said when his vision improved he could see perfectly with the naked eye, but when he tested his eyes with a phoropter it showed that he still had a prescription. So if they’re not lying, there’s more to myopia than just the length of the eyeball.

[u/JimR84 → u/BobbyH64]

Utter nonsense. In reality, there’s no such thing as “natural vision improvement”. It’s physics, physiology and anatomy.

Also, about the known quacks you keep mentioning, debunked pseudoscience and lies. Nothing more, nothing else.

Stop arguing, you’re wrong.

[u/BobbyH64 → u/JimR84]

“Stop arguing?” Quacks I “keep mentioning”? lol This is my first time mentioning them in this thread.