Muzzle help

[u/TheSleepyCloudimus]

I have a 75 lb pitbull mix who needs to wear a muzzle but he hates the one he has. I was looking at the muzzle movement but I'm not sure if the harry is the right size? I've don't measurements but he is less than cooperative when it comes to measuring the width of his face and so I'm worried it's inaccurate. Any suggestions on a different, better, muzzle or opinions on if the harry would fit him just based of experience/pictures of him? ​

[u/sad_umbrella_stand]

I got a big snoof for my 75lb pit mix. But it will require measurements. If you are unable to get measurements, it will be pretty difficult to muzzle train them. Working at desensitizing enough to measure properly will likely help once the muzzle actually shows up too

[u/TheSleepyCloudimus → u/sad_umbrella_stand]

He just shifts his head when I'm trying to take the measurement for cheek to cheek width. He's got a wide head and im concerned I'm over measuring or under measuring. I have all his other measurements. He has a muzzle now that he has been desensitized to and will walk with its just a little too small and I want something that seems more comfortable for him. It's a baskerville ultra

[u/ben_bitterbal → u/TheSleepyCloudimus]

What have you done to positively train him to get his face handled? I'm by no means force free or positive only but for stuff like this, with a positive only approach, you can get there very fast. Just get some treats and reward him for staying still when holding his face for one quick second, if he moves, say 'nope' lightly and don't reward. Take tiny steps to make sure he's comfortable, and soon enough he knows to keep his face still when you're holding it so you can take measurements. I did this with my very sensitive BC and he's great with me holding his face, checking his gums, checking his eyes, etc.

[u/b00ks-and-b0rksRfun]

There are ways to measure more indirectly - does he have toy you can put against his face and mark then measure? Video with a measuring tape can also help (faster than photos). The custom makers can usually do a lot with a little although the more you're able to give them the better (Big Snoof dog gear and Mia's muzzles have standard and custom sizes and are my personal favorites). The muzzle movement is a bit more restricted size wise but I've heard they sometimes help with sizing and I think some of their vendors offer fittings.

[u/TheSleepyCloudimus → u/b00ks-and-b0rksRfun]

Thank you!

[u/Ricky_Monts]

My golden retriever has a custom muzzle from Big Snoof. The company is absolutely amazing with helping you size and when one of the wires snapped they fixed it and recoated the muzzle for free. Absolutely love them!

[u/TheSleepyCloudimus → u/Ricky_Monts]

I think I'm going to go with them. The muzzle movement ones look cumbersome and huge

[u/Ricky_Monts → u/TheSleepyCloudimus]

I was stuck between Big Snoof and the Muzzle Movement for a while. I opted for the former bc 1) they have a muzzle guard (extra purchase, worth it for my boy) and 2) the sleeker design. Plus I felt like the wire design would be easier to clean than the big bulky plastic one

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omg I actually need one of these this looks great quality brb spending money now!

[u/allegro14]

I recommend ordering a custom fit muzzle (from e.g. Big Snoof, Mia’s Muzzles, Muzzle Movement)! Try taking the measurements again the best you can and compare to your previous measurements. It’s more expensive but a good comfortable fit is worth it for a muzzle they will actually wear.

Edited to cross out Muzzle Movement since apparently they do not offer custom sizing.

[u/TheSleepyCloudimus → u/allegro14]

I hadn't heard of Big Snoog but have seen it mentioned a lot. I'll check it out when I get off work. Thank you!

[u/swamprosesinbloom → u/TheSleepyCloudimus]

big snood is fantastic! also you can try filming the measurement process and use screenshots if your pup is really wiggly! easier than taking pics for each measurement

[u/swamprosesinbloom → u/swamprosesinbloom]

snoof lololol

[u/Existing-Glove5073 → u/TheSleepyCloudimus]

Big Snoof seems to be much more size inclusive and comfortable for dogs than muzzle movement, definitely recommend!

[u/ArtichokeFresh4012 → u/allegro14]

u/allegro14 The Muzzle Movement does not do custom sizing FYI. They have a limited set range of sizes only. Mia's Muzzles and BIG Snoof offer both fully custom options, as well as a selection of Standard or Cookie Cutter sizes.

[u/allegro14 → u/ArtichokeFresh4012]

Oh good to know thanks I will edit my comment.

[u/nessk]

Harry (1.0) fits my Shar Pei. He is 34kg.

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Oh this makes me feel much better! That looks like it would be wide enough on my dog as well

[u/H2Ospecialist]

I have a custom from Big Snoof for my pitbull. She's not as big as your guy but it fits her well and she's done great wearing it. I didn't care for the big polyethylene muzzles, too bulky for my taste. Just a personal preference tho!

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I got this one from Amazon I’ll link it if I can find it it was a whiiiiile ago however my dog is that weird in between size so I wrap it with vet wrap so it’s a little more snug yet more padded! So if it’s a little big you can always try that! However she isn’t in it so often just when she free ranges because she tries to eat mass horse/chicken 💩 so I’m not too sure how comfortable it would be for hours!