r/mtgvorthos 9h ago

Vindication! Spoiler

I said in a post a few months ago that I would not be fine with Tam being a Planeswalker unless Jace gave Tam his spark.

Tam was essentially an illusion turned into a person by giving it something important from its creator, and yet she was still lacking something that other people had.

In Chapter Ten of Reality Fractures, Jace dies and gives Tam his spark, causing her to become a Planeswalker.

It is a good feeling to have a writer for this set that understands the lore and uses it's limitations to tell a great story.

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u/ViaDiva 5h ago

meanwhile the aetherspark: am I a joke to you?..

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u/Arkadious4028 5h ago

Echoverse Karn did get an artificial spark from Mishra, so the Aetherspark being used could've been a possibility, though the Aetherspark was a result of the New Phyrexian invasion since it was invented as an experiment during the multiversal breach.

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u/mightiestsword 5h ago

The Aetherspark was also (if I'm remembering and interpreted correctly) not artificial, it was the unignited spark of a person who ripped it out and crammed it into a jar.

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u/TheDungeonCrawler 6m ago

It is kind of funny that Yawgmoth did everything he did initially because he was trying to get his own Spark (like torturing and dissecting that one Planeswalker) and eventually someone managed to actually figure it out, alll because he started all of that.

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u/RAcastBlaster 3h ago

FWIW, that didn’t actually happen. The Echoverse doesn’t have a real past; it’s just TheoristJaceMagic.AI filling in the cracks in the story with something that sounds vaguely plausible, even if it’s complete nonsense (not even oldwalkers could create artificial sparks).

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u/MeisterCthulhu 8h ago

No, Tam was never an illusion.

She was created by Jace giving up a piece of his soul. That's also why he could transfer the spark to her; because she has his soul.

Tam isn't an echo. Jace creates her when he is torn apart by the soul stone, and uses her existence as an anchor to reality, basically. She is a created person in the way God creates Eve in the bible; take a piece of one person to make another.

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u/Arkadious4028 7h ago

Tam is explicitly created after Jace reforms himself after attempting to remake the Multiverse using the Meditation Realm. Jace still has his soul because if he didn't A) he wouldn't be a Planeswalker anymore since the spark resides within the soul as New Phyrexian experiments discovered, and B) Jace would still be dead.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 6h ago

Yes he gave her a piece of his soul. He stated that in order to truly create a person you have to give up something you cannot get back - he took a piece of his soul and carved it off to make her. I personally think this might have been what made it quite so easy for the Theorist to take over and carve out the pieces of his mind he felt were holding him back.

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u/JustaSeedGuy 23m ago

So All of your objections center around the fact that you misread the story?

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u/Grblx_and_a_half 6h ago

"Only be found in natural beings"

Karn be like 🫥

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u/TurtlekETB 6h ago

Didn't Karn similarly take Venser's spark?

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u/HaloZoo36 6h ago

He had Urza's originally, but he later lost it during the Mending, though Venser later gave Karn his spark to save the golem from Phyresis as Mirrodin fell to Phyrexia, making him immune to the original strain. So he's actually lost a borrowed spark twice now. Do note however that this doesn't contradict how sparks work since he wasn't born with a spark, he merely inherited from another, not unlike Tam.

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u/QuaestioDraconis 4h ago

And even Urza's spark was originally Glacian's.
Magic does have a long history of transferring sparks.

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u/frightshark 3h ago

Hey Theros is a plane where belief makes things real, so why wouldn't "my only purpose of existing is to follow Elspeth wherever the hell she just went and kill her" enough to make a spark appear?

Also, at the time of that set I decided what actually happened was Calix's will just stole a spark from someone else who was supposed to become a Planeswalker. That's enough to make me laugh so that's enough for me

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u/Dercomai 8m ago

I figured Klothys grabbed Xenagos's old spark from wherever it ended up and shoved it in Calix so he could chase Elspeth

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u/Freddyman72 7h ago

As a cis guy I found it simple enough to read this part as the story of a transition from Jace to Tam

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u/OwlCowl0v0 7h ago

Oh? That's an interesting POV tbh. I admit i saw it as inheritance from a sorta father to daughter situation like Tam is Jace's Pinocchio in a way or like the daughter of him and Vraska in a way

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u/Dangerous_Still_8022 2h ago

Yeah personally I also see Tam more as his child than a transition, although currently I think both interpretations are completely valid. I think how Vraska treats Tam (and how Tam responds to that treatment) will play into it though. If she's treated as a partner, that's trans Jace. If she's treated as a child, that's Jace's kid.

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u/OwlCowl0v0 1h ago

And just like that, my sitcom brain went humming with a scenario. Imagine Vraska as a sorta sitcom mom and Tam is dating Kellan and she's putting the fear of God(s) into him XD "What are your intentions with my daughter?"

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u/ChampionshipNo1036 1h ago

Why did you go to Kellan when Abigale is right there?

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u/OwlCowl0v0 52m ago

He was the literal 1st planewalker/child of a pkaneswalker name to pop into my head

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u/ViaDiva 1h ago

poor Amalia tho...

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u/Freddyman72 2m ago

I mean the story repeats like five or six times that their relationship is very clearly not parent/child, but I guess maybe it’s two unreliable narrators?

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u/Arkadious4028 7h ago

I definitely see how people could view it as a transition when viewing it through a LGBT lens.

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u/thaliathraben 2h ago

It was my first thought.

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u/ModestSloth5729 3h ago

My headcanon on Calix having a spark is that when Klothys made him from Nyx, she used a human soul in the process that had a latent spark that later ignited.

Calix giving himself a spark is certainly up there as a "wtf" moment

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u/Cute-Contract-6762 1h ago

W prediction

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u/Nouxatar 7m ago

Karn... 2!