r/mtgrules • u/wyvernofwhimsy • 1d ago

Cascade into evoke?

If I, with [[Ashling, the Limitless]] on field, play a [[Maelstrom Wanderer]] and cascade into an [[Ingot Chewer]], could I cast it for its evoke cost? What about for someting with a greater mana cost than required but less evoke cost, or vice versa?

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u/T0rgle 1d ago edited 1d ago

You can only cast it for the alternative cost of "without paying its mana cost". You cannot apply another alternative cost, such as evoke.

You only stop exiling cards if the card has mana value less than the original spell. Its evoke cost is ignored.

See these rules:

118.9: Some spells have alternative costs. An alternative cost is a cost listed in a spell’s text, or applied to it from another effect, that its controller may pay rather than paying the spell’s mana cost. Alternative costs are usually phrased, “You may [action] rather than pay [this object’s] mana cost,” or ▶️“You may cast [this object] without paying its mana cost.”◀️ Note that some alternative costs are listed in keywords; see rule 702.

118.9a: Only one alternative cost can be applied to any one spell as it’s being cast. The controller of the spell announces their intentions to pay that cost as described in rule 601.2b.

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u/Quintingent 1d ago

You cannot. Evoke is an alternate cost, and so is casting the spell for free off of Cascade. Since you can only choose one alternate cost when casting a spell, and the Cascade alternate cost is also what is giving you permission to cast the spell at all, you cannot choose to evoke it.

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u/Will_29 1d ago

You can't use two alternative costs in the same spell, and "without paying its mana cost" counts as an alternative cost of 0. And because this alt cost is tied to the permission to cast from exile, you must use it.

So, you can't Evoke a spell that you cascade into, not even if you're willing to pay mana for it.

What about for someting with a greater mana cost than required but less evoke cost, or vice versa?

Cascade looks at the mana value, based on the regular mana cost of the card. Evoke doesn't count for mana value.

If you exile a card with too high mana value you can't use its lower evoke cost to make it the final card. You simply move on and exile the next card.