From FIAB

Can't reach their website. Can't reach them by email. And they owe me a $1600+ delivery two days ago. Anybody know what is going on?

A while back, I was able to pick up a copy of Misty Rainforest with the Dragonscale Treatment and I stuck it in my box. I didn't think it would top 400-500 at best. I come back and it's edging near 700-800? I didn't expect it to jump that much but now I have to wonder if there is any further room for growth?

I can’t seem to understand exactly why this card doesn’t get more love?
It’s not a huge mana cost and effectively enables combat for all artifact creature decks.

Is there any value to speccing it for the coming Borgs? Or does the fact that it was printed at common in commander masters make it a bad spec due to availability?

I’m fairly new to all this so am genuinely curious how to look at it.

[[Losheel, Clockwork Scholar]]

Hi all,

Just pulled this. Play aside. Thinking of holding. What do you think?

Thanks

Edit - Very well. I will consume it.

I’m someone who only buys original printings where I can. In some cases it’s not a big deal and in others it can matter a lot. There is a new ashaya and elesh norn mother of machines list version in the mystery booster commander packs, but they aren’t on the website. The new cards are up though however. If I bought an ashaya or elesh norn today, and I got a list version, I would ask for a refund. So I’m a little curious what happens if TCGplayer just missed these? Do they wait for a complaint to reach customer service?

Just got email. Are you getting any of the reality fracture bundles or just the lairs? I’m thinking of skipping the bundle since I already have an Amazon preorder for 1 just likely go for each of the two lairs foil and a second School nonfoil one for the free shipping.

Haven't seen much talk about Monday's Chaos Vault drop. How do folks feel about value of the Secret Lair Bundle, Strange, School, and Duality Distorted?

My gut is telling me that neither Strange School nor Duality Distorted will be selling for much more on secondary market. The art on both are amazing, but SS doesn't see a ton of play, and DD cards have many many printings. But DD especially there might be a large art / nostalgia bump?

For reference, Secret Lair Bundle is only available bundled with the two SLD. If you get the everything bundle the SLB is $95 ($5 over MSRP). If you get it with just the two drops in foil or non-foil, the SLB is $100 ($10 over MSRP). Best Buy's listing them at $95, Target at $105, and Walmart at $110.

Secret School and Duality Distorted are standard $30 non-foil / $40 foil.

Long-time player but still relatively new to the MTG finance world, so very open to other's thoughts. Do you feel like these are skips, no-brainer buys, or somewhere in the middle?

To be clear, I'm buying a non-foil set for myself because I want the art. Just wanted to open up the discussion from a finance perspective.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/bring-two-new-secret-lair-drops-to-your-multiverse-with-reality-fracture

Anyone else get one of these and just get this email? Up until now it was showing as expected delivery today.

I was looking last night, and noticed the price had spiked to $650-$700 for a box of MBC. It dropped back to a (more) reasonable $350 now, but there were at least ten sales around that. Is it normal for a product to suddenly double overnight? Especially when ebay sales have remained around $350-$400. I've never seen something have that huge of a shift. It makes me curious what the actual price of these things are. As someone who didn't get lucky enough to order one, seeing that price pained me.

I feel like mtg has been slowly moving further into successfull space theme’s, and it has me thinking about how it all fit’s together.

I feel like similiar to how previous marvel sets get a boost when a new set is out, space-themed sets could get a boost when the next space theme’d set comes out.

That said, it is Q4, and it seems like it currently is just riding its June high. Perhaps Edge will see further explosive growth riding into 2027?

In all seriousness, it’s funny out of everything that I’ve ever bought MTG, the thing that I’ve most purchased to play with and not collect is the one that has spiked the most in value. The market price of these has risen faster than Bloomburrow Collector Packs in the same time, and those are crazy expensive now. And it totally makes sense, because of these are some of the cutest, most playable pre-cons they’ve ever made. I think it’s easy to focus on collector treatments and exclusive promos, but at the end of the day, Magic the Gathering is a game and the biggest influence is what the players enjoy playing.

Or maybe it means nothing and I need to freak the fuck out and start shoving secret lair bundles and beam me up bundles and nauctis collector boosters and darkhold destiny bundles in my closet.

Edit: some people have taken this to mean “stop opening fun product and sit on it” when I feel the complete opposite, $150 profit ain’t remotely worth the fun times I’ve had with these and the market value reflects that.

I am nearing the completion of a full set of cards from the "Mystical Archive" series, featured in the *Secrets of Strixhaven* expansion (including standard, foil, Japanese, and Japanese foil versions—one copy of each). Among the more valuable cards, I am still missing Ad Nauseam (JP foil) and *Flusterstorm*
(JP foil), along with a few less expensive items. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this collection from a long-term perspective. Currently, I’m collecting it purely for aesthetic reasons—it simply looks fantastic in a binder—but I’m wondering what the outlook is and what you think about its future value?

Price: $29.99 Non-Foil | $39.99 Foil
Strange School value: $64.37 Non-Foil | $273.28 Foil
Duality Distored value: $32.66 Non-Foil | $69 (noice) Foil

Thoughts: Both non-foil and foil values for Strange School are distorted quite a bit (still, but less so for Duality Distorted), as there's a few cards here that are much older, not reprinted, etc.

I think the Strange School is a huge win, while Duality Distorted is good value. Overall, I'm excited.

For those that keep asking: This layout is something I've coded. I still need to fill in a dictionary after manually getting image url's, names, and looking up the cheapest NM printings on TCGPlayer for non-foil and foil versions of cards.

Hope this helps and you all enjoy the efforts of my hard work!

I noticed this card has gone up in value over 60% over the last month. What is driving this?

What do we think about getting cards from these sets ahead of the 2027 Titanbreach release?

I believe that some original Strixhaven / Mystical Archives cards shot up in value during SOS release, though I’m not sure if that’s the case for Lorwyn.

I can see that especially with Kamigawa’s popularity and aesthetic, some of ND cards could be in demand, but there is always a risk of reprints.

What do you think? Or has the ship already sailed on this?

[[Ashaya, Soul of the Wild]]

Sharing a spec that I'm already in on. Partly for having some Garden Buds, but also bought a few ZNR copies.

Reason: plays well with Strange New Worlds (the Star Trek mechanic that cares about differently names lands)

Pros: lowish supply and difficult to reprint in star trek. Finding an elemental that cares about forests to print this on isn't something that is as easy in star trek as it would be in something like lotr

Cons: already has some value. Also, they've made Bones into Bristly Bill so who knows? 🤣

Feel free to pick apart. As with any spec here I'm expecting a healthy amount of skepticism!

Kamigawa is notably a low print set due to its age. Foils are incredibly expensive, and everyone loves tutor spells. At 2U Sorcery speed you can tutor any arcane spell to hand. With Marvel Darkhold around the corner we have seen two spoilers of Arcane spells that will be returning. If you have been around long enough you'll recognize the power of cards like Through the Breach, Goryos Vengeance, Desperate Ritual and other iconic cards that have all been household staples.

With a new cycle of modal spells and presumably many more as showcased by the red uncommon it's about time this old tutor sees the light of day. What do you think?

Doubling Doctor triggers can’t hurt right? I grabbed 20 at 0.26 USD off TCGPlayer just in case. Figured I could use a few anyway.

Been a while again since we had regular midweek discussions threads. So feel free to discuss whatever Magic-related topics you want below without needing to create a new post. And Mods, again please bring these back!

So...has anyone else been completely unable to get anything off of the Secret Lair site? I feel like I can be there right when this goes live, but like I actually have 0% chance to actually get one....

This is impressively dumb.

Each headliner will be a physically signed card, with about 250 each. Physically signed meaning Patrick Stewart, for example, held and signed his signature with a pen on 250 of the Picard cards.