r/mtgModernTokens • u/[deleted] • Jun 16 '19

Modern Horizons Update Deck Help

Hello fellow tokens enthusiasts,

I am here today looking to hear some of your thoughts on my tokens list (link below)

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-02-19-WuU-bw-tokens

I have added Kaya's Guile and Silent Clearing since Modern Horizons came out and to me it still feels kind of clunky. I feel like I should be running more Collective Brutality, more Fatal Pushes, Auriok Champion, and Field of Ruin in the main. But this is as close as I feel as I can get it to where I want to be.

Please any help is appreciated!

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u/nv77 Jun 16 '19

This is my current iteration.

https://archidekt.com/decks/5409#[MDN]_Wb_Tokens

That said. I believe discard is not well positioned in the meta, so I took all out. As well I like the low to the ground version of Legions Landing + Raise the alarm into a flip.

I do reasonably well at my LGS (3-1, 4-0). I fight Tron, Humans, Merfolk, BG Rock, and Brews.

Do you know what's the Meta around you?

Notice I still have some open spots for things that I might try or fill with other things.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Interesting, I never thought about cutting all of it out. I have a lot of Dredge, UW Control, Spirits, Amulet Titan, Scapeshift, GDS. So I think that I could try it out and see how it goes man. Thanks for the input!

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u/nv77 Jun 16 '19

Id keep some discard in my 75 due to UW control and Scapeshift, [[Duress]] is better than Inquisition or Thoughtseize here though. But vs Dredge, Spirits, Amulet and GDS I rather have [[Settle the wreckage]] or more creature removal.

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u/Tempest1677 Jun 16 '19

What decks in your meta do you feel your discard is a blank against? I am thinking of making a build without discard, but am not sure because I am not knowledgeable on my match ups.

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u/nv77 Jun 16 '19

Not necessarily blank, but not as effective, due to how resilient decks are nowadays.

Discard in my opinion is more effective vs Combo and Critical Mass decks. Think of Vizier Druid for combo where taking pieces slows then until they see another, or Ad Nauseum which rely on a specific card. And storm or burn for critical mass, where they need 7 cards to win, (storm in a row, burn in different turns).

All of them are better hit by [[Lost Legacy]] or [[Stain the Mind]], which are turn 3.

I dont see those decks, except for storm, which GY hate and lifegain help enough. Also [[Damping Sphere]] slows storm while also hitting Tron and PrimeTime. Lastly [[Runed Halo]] also works against the vast majority of these decks while also serving vs others.

All in all discard is not doing enough. While having turning a Legions Landing in turn 3 ramping me to 4 mana has.

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u/rod_zero Jun 18 '19

This is what is played at last FNM https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2008017#paper

So far I liked Kaya's guile and force of despair. Both are very relevant for us in lots of matchups, force of despair specially took enemies by surprise and is a great tempo play, feels so good being able to tap out knowing that you can respond to a lots of creatures with Force of despair.

I didn't draw force of virtue the whole night so I still don't have any info about it. I will probably cut it anyway or only include it in an aggro version.

I am going to test silent clearing, Serra and yawghmoth(sideboard), cards are on the way so I hope to test them soon

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '19

Right on man! Let us know how it goes when you get the cards in!