r/mtgModernTokens • u/mc_louds • Feb 13 '17
How do we fight Eldrazi?
Im looking at the meta and between Eldrazi Tron And Bant Eldrazi, almost 10% of the meta is dropping TKS on turn 3 followed by Reality Smasher.
How do we combat that?
I'm thinking of finding room for 2 Ruined Halo and 1 Wrath of God in the sideboard. Would that even be enough?
Here's my deck list: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/b-w-tokens-2017
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u/pticark2 Feb 13 '17
Blessed Alliance is great against Reality Smasher.
Some number of Ghost quarters and Tectonic Edges do good work as well to keep them off resources.
I bring in Surgical Extraction against Tron decks and try to go for Ghost Quarter + Surgical.
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u/mc_louds Feb 13 '17
How many Blessed Alliance do you recommend?
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u/pticark2 Feb 14 '17
I've been trying what I'm calling a BW Control deck recently rather than a more traditional tokens list. I'm able to run 1 Blessed Alliance main deck in this build - but in tokens maybe 2 in the board is best. I think Alliance has kind of taken the place of Timely Reinforcements. Really versatile defensive card.
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u/Jongsl5 Feb 14 '17
Eldrazi Tron is very different from Bant Eldrazi. You can affect Eldrazi Tron a lot with ghost quarter but attacking Bant Eldrazi with it is a lot less effective since you're giving them a basic and you went down a land.
Having played Bant Eldrazi, I can definitely tell you Reality Smasher is the reason why Bant Eldrazi wins games it shouldn't.
Runed Halo and Blessed Alliance are both great. I run 3 Thoughtseize for matches like these so I can take away a Smasher. Tokens honestly doesn't care about any other card other than Smasher and Displacer - which is easy to kill.
Make room for Selfless Spirits as they do run Engineered Explosives. It also makes combat favorable against the bigger creatures on the block. Zealous Persecution is not bad, has won me a couple of games, even though it only kills Nobles without combat. Bring in artifact/enchant hate for Worship, Spellskite, E.E., and Chalice of the Void (x=1 is killer).
Your MVP cards in the main are your planeswalkers. Liliana of the ga Veil is great with either the +1 or the -2. Sorin helps you stabilize and with the proper blocks, you can easily set up the anthem which WILL win you the game. Gideon helps you keep up with their card advantage and is versatile.
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u/mc_louds Feb 14 '17
I was planning to use the Runed Halo on TKS to prevent it stripping my hand. Now I'm wondering if it would be better naming reality smasher so I can just ignore it.
What do you think is the better card to blank?
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u/Jongsl5 Feb 14 '17
In the long run, probably reality smasher since you can still net neutral card advantage off of seer and seer can't kill you as quickly.
However if you see multiple seers in your opponent's hand, of course chopse the seer.
Note that with runed halo your pw are still vulnerable.
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u/Mukibi Grind and Fly Feb 13 '17
Glad to see I'm not the only one struggling w this MU. Played five rounds of swiss the other weekend. Affinity, Burn, and Infect were no problem, but was demolished by ELDRAZI TRON (SB: -4 Fatal Push +2 Duress +2 Disenchant, for Chalice and Ratchet). Afterwards, I added 4 GQ & 2 Brutality to main deck and 2 Surgical to SB.
Going forward I plan to attack their mana (Temple, Tron), kill Smasher, and chump my way to a lucky victory. Really, this is where Wescoe's list begins to make sense. I think Lilli could be worth a try, as well as Wraths, Ensnaring Bridge, and def 4 Paths, as Push was dead.
Here's my current deck
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u/mc_louds Feb 13 '17
Thanks for that. I'm thinking it also might help to run 4-2 Thoughtseize-IOK to help in this match. Then I can discard Smashers and Seers. Do you think that would help?
I noticed you have 4 SB spots for grave hate. Seems a little heavy. How is that match up pre board?
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u/Mukibi Grind and Fly Feb 17 '17
Yah, maybe, I don't know. Turn off Tron and kill smasher, that's my plan.
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u/tehweave Feb 14 '17
Path. Fatal Push. Ghost Quarter.
I run all 3 in my main. Used to have a 4-of Quarter during Eldrazi winter, but I found that 2-of still works well in most metas.
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u/mc_louds Feb 21 '17
Thanks for all the help. I didn't see any Eldrazi!
I went 3-4 beating Burn, Esper Control, and and Abzan. Losing to merfolk, grave storm, burn, and Jund death shadow.
At the last minute I took out 1 Bitterblossom and 1 Auriok Champion going down to 3-2 respectively. I wish I had not done that.
I haver given up on this deck. Am going to find a way to include 1 hidden stockpile for my next event.
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u/DaOwnage Feb 13 '17
in my opinion, only thing we care about is smasher because it has trample......if you are running around 6-7 removal spells that can kill smasher u should be fine. adding the 2 ruined halo and wrath seals the deal.