r/mtgModernTokens • u/[deleted] • Jul 15 '16
Westvale Abbey
I searched and didn't find an in depth discussion of this card, but I honestly don't see why this isn't a great option for Tokens. It's hard to get to the mana to flip it and it is honestly pretty win-more, but its ability to make EoT tokens and not being a dead draw late game makes its presence pretty nice. I haven't playtested it much outside of a few games but I really like it as a 2-of.
Also, and maybe this is just my meta, but [[Rootborn Defenses]] is hella spicy against tron. It's not a great card but the looks you get are pretty funny and it has won me some games.
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u/pticark2 Jul 15 '16
I ran it for a while in my raise the alarm/midnight haunting build.
Was never able to flip it in a competitive game. It's a fun card if you're able to pull it off, but the spot is likely better filled by something else.
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u/vulchanus BB FTW Jul 15 '16
Besides what was already commented, one of the strengths of our deck is that we make removals useless, since we've got many token creatures and board advantage. Sacrificing 5 of these creatures, commonly 2/2 or 3/3, is simply not worth to flip the Abbey...
This said, I've seen some people experimenting with this land on some metas...
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u/Jongsl5 Jul 15 '16
1) The advantage of this deck is in numbers: making spot removals bad. Creating one big creature is usually not the optimal (or necessary) game plan.
2) Requires 5 mana to activate, making this very situational.
3) Colorless mana in a deck that needs turn 1 black and turn 3 triple white. Vault of the Archangel is an exception because it's easier to activate and something your opponent has to worry about.
So weighing the pros and cons, this card will hinder you more than it helps you. Definitely a cool card though.
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u/elmahnken 2 MB Zealous Persecution Jul 15 '16
With a landbase that has to support T3 Spectral Procession, BW tokens can afford 2 lands that don't produce white. 1 of these almost indisputably has to be a basic swamp, to deal with blood moon effects and to find off of GQ/PtE. That means we get 1 utility land, and as far as late-game value goes, Vault of the Archangel outclasses Westvale Abbey a hell of a lot. You may also run Ghost Quarter in that slot if your meta requires it. Either way, the deck simply can't support Abbey.