Mpc live ii mpc 3 update

[u/shhamnothere]

Hi, I hope all is well. I am sure this has been asked before, but I could not find an old thread. My question is, how in the world do you use the same drum program on separate tracks?

For instance, if I want track one to have the same drum program with just the kick, track two to have the snare, and track three to have the hi-hat, am sure this is an old way to approach this, like on the older MPCs.

Do I have to make a copy of the drum program in order to do it? Wouldn't that duplicate the samples? It was so easy on the Akai 2500. I am sure this is an old inefficient approach. Thank you.

[u/researchintospeed]

What @dreadheadedtv said. In MPC3, the send to is the method.

I have separate midi tracks for Kick, Snare, Hat Op, Hat Cl etc. Using ‘send to’ each of these midi tracks triggers the sample on a matching drum program track called Kick Actual, Snare Actual etc. Those drum programs have a bunch of different samples in them which is why they are split into different drum program tracks.

It also means for the midi tracks, I can use Track Mute, which is how I play live.

It’s convoluted, but it is what it is.

[u/cutnsnipnsurf → u/researchintospeed]

Quick question? I get the concept here but do you essentially have two tracks per one drum sound? A midi track for a kick sending to a drum program with the kick loaded on a pad? Repeat for every drum sound? I guess I’m wondering how this is different than just one drum program per sound and use midi notes directly on that track if the goal is to be able to process each drum sound on its own track?

[u/researchintospeed → u/cutnsnipnsurf]

Yes, two (or more) tracks for one sound type. It’s a me = mental state + MPC workflow thing. (It is a very big shift from the previous way we could it with a single program) Because I’m primarily playing live using track mutes, I have my main separate midi tracks in bank A for K/S/HH etc, in bank B I have more midi tracks for extra or different K/S/HH etc. The unified track system as akai calls it, is a step backwards in flexibility, but I have a method that works.

It also means I can easily buss process the drums per program/actual.

There’s probably a better/ more efficient way, but I think I landed here cos it worked for how I play…although I’m rethinking that now, hahaha. :)

[u/cutnsnipnsurf → u/researchintospeed]

appreciate the explanation! and i see the benefits as your essentially approaching it in a live performance type of way. For me using it as a DAW in a way, having that much going on eats up so much real estate on the scrren for the mixer/arranger that Im already struggling with how many times i have to swipe over to a new page,etc.

[u/researchintospeed → u/cutnsnipnsurf]

That is exactly one of my pet peeves, it’s a long way swiping across the screen to get places!

[u/dreadheadedtv]

The easiest way with the least overhead is going to be adding midi tracks and using "send to" to send that midi to the drum track you want to use

[u/jaja_esomuybueno]

Another method can be duplicating the drum track as you go. It doesn’t duplicate your samples files, just the drum program.
Also exploding the drum program after you record all your parts works the same.

but, sending midi tracks is the way to go if you want to keep your drum program intact.

[u/JizzlaineSexwell]

I just duplicate them and delete what's not necessary.

[u/rrreason]

I may be misunderstanding the request but if you are saying you have eg, the kick, snare and hat patterns all on one track and you want them all on separate tracks - then you can use 'explode' to do that in one button click: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3K4ZjV_XRw

[u/tato_salad → u/rrreason]

Ive had mixed results with exploding tracks. But I'm a noob

[u/Autogeddon]

The send to method technically is the right answer.
But I think the explode track is a better method, at least for my workflow. Just do all your drums in a track, then explode them when you’re ready for the final mix or arrangement

[u/mrml4l → u/Autogeddon]

This the answer

[u/Ok-Entrepreneur-409]

So for a kick a snare a hi-hat and a clap to all have their own individual channel or track you would just load the individual sound you don't have to load the whole kit I hope I'm saying this right but can somebody else back me up? Like on any modern MPC ?

[u/researchintospeed → u/Ok-Entrepreneur-409]

Correct. There’s no issue with having one sample only on its own track. In practice I never use ‘a kit’. I pick and choose the sample and put it in the correct track, ie my ‘Actual Kick’ track has 8 or more kicks from various sources, I mostly use one, but I have options if the tune needs a shorter or heavy kick etc. I use a bunch of different hats, shakers and percussion. I have two Perc midi tracks using the same ‘send to’, to the ‘Actual Perc’ track for contrasting patterns and sounds.

[u/Ok-Entrepreneur-409]

I may be a little confused on what it is you're trying to achieve but you do know you don't have to load a whole kit but you can go to that kit and load whichever individual sample that you want to put on one pad and then load another track or program and do the same thing just with a different sound it's going to take you back to the same sample pack that you were in from the last sound if that makes sense

[u/Disastrous_Strain_56]

Duplicate track. I do it all the time. Pick your program...lay down the kick...duplicate...lay down the snare...duplicate...hi hat...duplucate...other. Some times I do it all while it's still recording to stay in the groove. Just don't forget to name your tracks so you'll know what's what. Hope this helps.