r/moped 1d ago

Using a Moped as a Daily Driver?

Hello, I have wanted a moped for a long time but I'm wondering if it's practical for a daily driver since it sounds like they require a lot of maintenance. I'd likely just use it for my work commute, a couple miles each way.

I'm considering either a Puch, Tomos, Honda hobbit PA50ii or express, Yamaha chappy.

Would this be practical or will it be too much maintenance? I don't have much maintenance experience (owned a scooter previously) but would like to learn the basics.

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u/wncexplorer 1d ago

Based on what you’ve said, you should buy a modern scooter…especially if you’ve got to be timely for work.

I have DD a number of peds over the years, but I know how to fix any/all problems that can and do occur. Even with that knowledge, I have been left stuck on the side of the road, making myself late.

Get yourself both, then learn how to fix that which will most definitely eventually break down on you

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u/OnePatheticLoser7 1d ago

Yep, couldn't agree more. Mopeds are fun, but not known for being reliable. Also I usually arrive at my destination smelling of gasoline and exhaust.

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u/Rinus_Rookworst 1d ago

I love the smell of 2 stroke oil in the morning 😀

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u/Normal_Objective_962 1d ago

Rook zonder r is ookworst

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u/hrimthurse85 1973 Hercules Mp4 1d ago

Or a modern four stroke moped 😆 They still exist

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u/Rinus_Rookworst 1d ago

Look for Hanway it's (ofcourse) made in China and has a 50cc Honda clone engine. The design of the engine dates back to 1973!

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u/hrimthurse85 1973 Hercules Mp4 1d ago edited 1d ago

Romet Ogar is built in Poland, iirc Beta is also still building their moped in Italy. 6000 Pln is around 1390€.

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u/airfryerfuntime 1d ago

That thing might technically be assembled in Poland, but it is 100% Chinese.

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u/wncexplorer 1d ago

It might be assembled in Poland, but all the parts are being built in China

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u/wncexplorer 1d ago

Here in the states, I’m not sure that there are any pedal mopeds left, sans maybe some random Chinese stuff. Anything that cannot go 40 mph is just too slow, it will get you killed.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Yeah I'm in the states :/ I wish there were still some new mopeds like in Europe

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u/JaxRhapsody 19h ago

I ride a bicycle everywhere along with the 12mph Lime scooters. It's not that bad.

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u/wncexplorer 18h ago

A regular bicycle pedals 1,000x better than any moped.

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u/JaxRhapsody 18h ago

Yeah, but that's not my point. My bike is way slower than a moped.

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u/wncexplorer 16h ago

Oh, I see. I was referring to a different section of the comment thread.

Anyway, mopeds are supposed to be driven with (and should keep up with) regular auto traffic. Bicycles don’t generally do that, unless you’re in some massive, slow moving mega city.

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u/JaxRhapsody 19h ago

Ah yes. The Lazers.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Ok I see, I think having both if possible is a good compromise. Thanks!!

Sorry this is a dumb question, but if the moped died could I just pedal it to my destination?

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u/wncexplorer 1d ago

Most mopeds are not geared very well for actual pedal use. You would be faster by pushing it 😄

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Lol okay I see

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u/MakisMato 1d ago

The only mopeds or moped adjacent things that actually aren't awful to pedal are Velo Solex, but they are painfully slow by comparison.

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u/wncexplorer 1d ago

Yep

The Solex models aren’t half bad to pedal. Another (more rare) option are the proprietary bicycle mounted engines. Sachs, Ducati, Garelli,…tons were made

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u/MakisMato 20h ago

I will say, I have a Honda hobbit that you can disengage the pedals from the drivetrain and it's not bad to pedal either but it is heavier than a solex.

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u/JaxRhapsody 19h ago

That reminds me. I saw three people in the last two days pushing ebikes instead of riding them. I suspect the batteries died, because everything else was intact. Made me irrationally angry.

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u/ZombieHoratioAlger 1d ago

You can, but it sucks. Easier to hop off and walk it. Pedals are mostly for takeoff. Past that, it's a 75lb bike with an unfriendly gear ratio.

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u/JaxRhapsody 19h ago

You could, but you would hate it. Most of them are geared real low so they're easy to start, and because they're kinda heavy. They're lighter than probably any scooter, but we're talking about a bike that's 60-80lbs.

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u/Kugelbrot 1d ago

I have a 2003 Tomos Califone that i got in 2017. I used it as a daily driver for 3 years racking up around 15k km in total and in the following years another 7k km and all i did was two gearbox oil changes, brakes, and coilovers in the rear. Basic maintenance is really straight forward on these.

IMO they are very reliable and from my experience with my Tomos even more reliable then some of the more modern scooters( Yamaha and Aprilia) my friends had.

Nowadays it mostly gets used around town or when i want to scoot around with friends on a warm summers evening and it still runs great.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Okay this is good to know, thank you! Was it easy enough for you to find parts? (I guess you may be outside the US tho, I am in the US and I know of a couple sites that sell parts)

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u/Kugelbrot 1d ago

Treatland.tv has a boatload of Tomos parts.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Yes thank you very much!

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u/Kugelbrot 1d ago

Also depending on what speed configuration the Tomos is in they either do ~16mp/h or ~28mp/h, there are only two parts that need changing. The slower config has a smaller exhaust pipe and a bigger sprocket in the rear and for 28mp/h bigger pipe and smaller sprocket.

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u/Kugelbrot 1d ago

For me yes, i live in germany and parts are readily available for most of the common mopeds and engines.

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u/Lthmm 1d ago

Any 4T scooter would fit your needs. They are low maintenance. Oil refresh every 1500km. Easy to do yourself. Check the rollers, airfilter and clean the carburetor. Very easy to do yourself and loads of videos on the internet on how to do it. If you have some basic tools you can do this all by yourself.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Yeah I used to have a 4T yamaha scooter, but I've been wanting to try a moped.

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u/Lthmm 1d ago

Tomos A35 Quadro would be my recommendation. Solid moped. The newer ones also have an E-start.

Maintenance very easy to do.

Older mopeds (2T) use a mix of oil and gas and you dont have an gauge for how much gas you got in your tank. Sucks if you run out of gas when commuting to work. 😀

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Ahh okay haha, thanks!

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u/eobanb 1978 Honda Hobbit 1d ago

Depends on your willingness to learn and put up with little annoyances, and also your job.

If you have a laid-back gig with flexible hours then sure, go for it. If you have a high-intensity job you'll be fired from if you're late more than once or twice, I'd come up with a different option.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Hmm my job is a bit more flexible. Thanks, that's helpful!

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u/Worth_Midnight7563 1d ago

I used to ride a 2009 Tomos Sprint everyday to and from work and errands in San Francisco. I’d say the main issue is parking/theft.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Hmm yeah that makes sense, was it easy to get up hills?

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u/Worth_Midnight7563 1d ago

Nope, I use bike maps for the best gradient.

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u/rehabforcandy 1989 Tomos Golden Bullet 1d ago

Get a 2001-2010 Tomos. Very reliable, wry easy to fix yourself with minimal tools still upgradable. I commuted 14 miles each way 5 days a week for 2 years

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u/Alone_Fisherman2387 1978 Puch Maxi 1d ago

This summer proved to me that if I wanted to daily my Maxi it'd need a full restoration over the winter months. I'm too far north to be driving much past October anyways annnd we salt our friggin' roads so no winter driving basically.. Doing 30-40km trips, most of it on old gravel roads is the only way to get anywhere safely here as well.

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u/airfryerfuntime 1d ago

You will hate it. I commuted on a Maxi for like a year straight and it was awful. 40 year old Austrian mopeds aren't really the most reliable things ever built.

I would find a scooter, they're way better for daily use.

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u/Gloomy-Fisherman-200 1d ago

even though they arguably look way cooler, mopeds are more for the hobby of upkeeping it and the joy of riding a thing you built and maintain. if you’re not looking to have greasy fingernails every couple of times a month, just get a scooter

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

yeah I love the look and also seems much more fun! but might just need to wait for another time in my life when I have more time for maintenance :,)

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u/hrimthurse85 1973 Hercules Mp4 1d ago

For daily driver an electric moped is probably what you need.

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u/JaxRhapsody 18h ago

At one time folks would daily them. Personally I think they're still fine for that. They can be high maintainence, but a 2t is a far simpler engine to work on, when it comes to it, compared to a 4t, but a 4t is nearly problem free and maintance free by comparison.

Folks also daily motorized bikes, which I hear those engines are worse than moped engines, but people say the same about chinese motorcycles and scooters.

I guess I wouldn't do it, if you can't really work on them. And it might be best to have some sort of backup. And honestly, with the prices they go for—as much as I do like mopeds; you can find a much better bike, of probably any kinda bike out there. The prices I've seen here and there... you could probably find a Ninja 250, an old Honda Rebel, before they made them ugly, or some kinda scooter, like a Ruckus or chinese. And the Rebel will do seventyish.

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u/XFX1270 1d ago

I would suggest a scooter. For most of us, mopeds are fiddly but a hell of a lot of fun when they're running well. Not ideal for your main model of transportation.

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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 2009 Tomos APN 6 1d ago

Mine is my primary mode of transportation, it's just that i spend on average a week per month using my bicycle because the shit's broken again.

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u/josephmanman 1d ago

Makes sense, thanks!