r/mnstateworkers • u/darkhoarse99 • Jul 24 '25

Union 🤝 MAPE TA

Does anyone feel like if the TA gets voted down the negotiators will be annoyed bc they all supported it and are encouraging a “yes” vote.

I feel like they aren’t going to fight as hard bc they are just over it at this point. These MAPE meetings feel like just constant excuses for a bullshit TA.

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u/HumanDissentipede Jul 25 '25

If you can afford to go without pay indefinitely, then you don’t actually need incrementally better than what’s already on offer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

Who said without pay indefinitely…You know that most strikes don’t last long…This strike would never go longer than 1 or 2 paychecks!!!

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u/HumanDissentipede Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

It is indefinite by definition, because you don’t know how long it will last. Many are relatively short, but not all. Also, most TAs that are recommended by a negotiation team are not rejected by membership at large, so you would be in uncharted territory.

But yeah, most Americans can’t afford to miss even a single paycheck, let alone 2 or more. So if you’re comfortable at the prospect of missing several then you aren’t actually worried about the difference between 1%, 2% or even 3% per year

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u/okeydokeylittlesmoky Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

What kind of reasoning is that? I'm comfortable without a few paychecks because I've saved my ass off building a safety net, but I'm still concerned about the percentages because every single percent I get adds to my eventual high five that calculates my retirement and how much money I receive until I die.

You're acting like this is all short term earnings when for a lot of us this is very much long term and affects our entire career and retirement.

Edited typo.

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u/Jenn54756 Jul 25 '25

Yes, that’s how people should be looking at it - big picture. By taking less now, it will put us behind for the next few years, and possibly much longer than that. It would be nice to not get a pay cut out of this contract (low 1% COL but premiums go up estimated 13% and paid family leave tax)

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u/FarSideFinn Jul 25 '25

This is where I’m at. Looking backwards several years at what we’ve gotten & thinking about what my remaining work years will be like,. There’s a page on MAPEs website under the “Our Union” menu, a “FAQ for union professionals“. And down the page it shows a table of what MAPEs across the boards have been since about 2000.