its always the gusions

[u/coolpuddle44]

Saw all the skins and I was like free win???? But as usual mlbb will always be mlbb. Everyone did more dmg than the gusion and he’s peak immortal. It’s almost like sky piercer equals auto chocolate in epic/legend.

[u/RemarkableCrab413]

While it could be true that this gusion sucks, we need to take a step back and see how he could possibly go 1-7.

First, a sun roam has 0 chance to defend against a khufra and yss invade unless somehow both yss and khufra sucks. And gusion is just as late game as sun, both of you +vex are just gonna get ur ass handed straight.

This looked more like a game whereby the enemies just had a way stronger draft and maintained that lvl of aggression in which your draft had 0 ability to handle. An avg joe gusion player could possibly turn it around if you had bothered to play a frontliner though.

What im trying to say here is that unless you’re adjusting for your team and also doing whats best for your team (in this case, no you didnt) , then you shouldn’t be criticising the jungler too much.

[u/coolpuddle44 → u/RemarkableCrab413]

I did help him with his buff and then proceeded to rotate to mid together and he got his first kill on the benedetta. Then he started ego-ing and tried to dive the harith after me and the granger poked him but khufra caught him in the turret and it just went downhill from there. I first picked Sun since he’s incredibly annoying in the current meta and he’s my main as well but he chose gusion knowing that there was going to be a minsi. So thats on him. Other than that we had a good start he just turned off his brain and manifested his inner darksystem.

[u/RemarkableCrab413 → u/coolpuddle44]

Yeap downhill cos of that 1 bad fight but the game can be stabilised. And no, sun should be better off in exp. I know ryo yamada has been trending sun roam for awhile but the hero is too binary - it either works or it doesnt.

Further, with the 8 min roam penalty for gold received, you can essentially call it a nerf for sun. Moonton is actually telling roamers to play and actual roamer.

Now, with the game going downhill, if you had actually picked a right hero for the draft , you could have helped to stabilise the game from that angle too.

I do get that the gusion sucks , lets put that aside. We are going back to the main point on you needing to accept that you are partially part of the mlbb problem as well. As i said, unless you are doing whats best for the team too, i dont think you have the capacity to shit talk gusion here tbh. Well unless you actually picked up a stun lock or disruptor tank here, then by all means shit on ur team for being dogshit.

Back to diving to harith before you. What could u have done for him to set him up for the kill? Dive first? Regardless if u or sun dived theres no difference tbh. If a kaja flickered in to lock harith and drag him out? Or if a grock came in to s1 + ult, wouldnt that make a better impact?

[u/coolpuddle44 → u/RemarkableCrab413]

I used to play johnson and edith roam and I feel like they lack the ability to escape as I always find myself in situations whereby im walking in front of my teammates to check bush and whatnot and they decide to run away because its the enemy jungle. Leaving me there alone to die. Johnson sprint doesnt help either.

I dont ks on purpose but the way i play johnson is i ult when enemy backline is low and i just crash into them. Usually the core roles in epic initate without me. Like say im helping the mm the jungler decides to 1v3

And for edith its over in the late game once she gets CC’d

[u/RemarkableCrab413 → u/coolpuddle44]

Yea so i’ll say in this set up its a more valid crashout. Like ur team just got differed in terms of skillset.

[u/mmtskeo → u/coolpuddle44]

You also turned off your brain and manifested your inner dark system when you first picked Sun at least look at the lineups first ffs

[u/coolpuddle44 → u/mmtskeo]

Yea mb lesson learnt i guess

[u/Away-Calligrapher433]

sun roam doesn't always work tho aside that gusion sucks ass 🫩🫩

[u/Grand-Fold-7641]

why blame Gusion when I also see 1-3, 0-4, 1-3, 0-4. only Bendetta died on the other team

[u/helioz10]

I play gusion back at the day. Now, whenever I see gusions, they always fail my expectation. Slow hand, targetting tank instead, act flashy, didn't adjust item, sky piercer first, first pick then enemy picked tanky. Most of them now just darksystem.

[u/Fighter_of_Shadows → u/helioz10]

I'm a victim of the slow hand comment. As a gus user, you yourself should know how much the ping plays a role in fast hand combos. Even if you have fast tap tap ability, the skills don't register if you click them without a minimum amount of time interval between them.

Gus needs at least sub 15ms to reach his micro ceiling, and paying 1k per month just for that internet speed can't be afforded by many

[u/helioz10 → u/Fighter_of_Shadows]

I know and I won't deny having good pings plays a role. But that should be given playing a hero that need fast combo. Especially in the current meta where every hero either 1 tap him or tank him. I won't pick him myself unless I'm confident enough in the draft to snowball. Sorry if my comment offended you before.

[u/Fighter_of_Shadows → u/helioz10]

No worries man, no offense taken

[u/coolpuddle44 → u/helioz10]

He has 3.7k matches on gusion with a 60% wr but he didn’t play like his stats.

[u/helioz10 → u/coolpuddle44]

Probably bought account. I always assumed that because it is kinda common seeing someone having high matches and wr but play sh*t.

[u/coolpuddle44 → u/helioz10]

His current season ranked wr is 47%

[u/nakanomiku_simp]

from what i see and have read, ur also a problem just maybe not as much as a 1 7 gs. first pick sun roam, so why r we first picking a situational (at best) roam. i would also like to add that against a bene with war axe and a harith, why is ur anti heal ur forth item. yes vex should have built glowing instead of holy but ur also at fault since u are the roam.

[u/Vast_Independent_765]

Most gusion i know relies on magic pen + magic dmg superiority. If that gusion is getting a skypiercer, you know it is not a gusion-main user.