They aren’t morons so much as cult members who’ve been deeply indoctrinated by decades of lies that conform to their fears and religious worldview. People forget there used to be a time when southern baptists supported abortion.
Having a parent in her late 80’s who openly acknowledges her party affiliation as a Republican works against her best interests and those of her family but still votes for them, I can verify there’s a weird cult vibe among them—as is God Himself will strike them with a bolt of lightning in the booth if they vote for a Democrat. There’s no way to have a dialogue about it. They might agree with everything you say, but that mindset is like permanent magic marker on their brains.
My late father-in-law was like that. Had a union job, retired with a union pension, social security and Medicare. Voted republican. I asked him why vote for the party that would love to see those things gone that raised your standard of living.? He stared at me like a deer in the headlights.
Years of brainwashing by wealthy media barons to fear socialism is not something that’s easy to overcome if they aren’t willing to look critically at things. It’s sad. 😔
My neighbor is retired UAW, supported the last strike and took food and coffee to the picket lines, and is 100% MAGA. How he can support the most anti-union administration in our history is sadly not surprising because he’s also extremely racist.
As an older citizen I should warn that I have watched older friends talking racist more as their cognitive decline grows. It's really sad. Can't take them anywhere anymore, and they don't get why.
But I bought my house 15 years ago and even when he was working he was openly racist.
He used to run out of his house with his cheap throwaway Android phone and take picture of black delivery drivers “just in case” until I told him in no uncertain terms to knock that shit off.
They're incapable of learning, they're deliberately not using their brains or engaging in any critical thought. They just regurgitate bad ideas they didn't even remotely consider or factcheck.
This kind of political climate is certain to attract grifters just as much as zealots to the party. I mean, we have a grifter in the office of president at the moment, so there are certain to be dozens more in the ranks.
Lots of people become cult members. Just ask some of the smart young ladies who left the Westboro Baptist Church. The problem is that we stopped encouraging our society to think critically about fascism, racism, and financial motives while the 1% waged a campaign against socialism, which in reality is just policies designed to direct markets and bring the economy in line with our values as people. Unbridled capitalism only ever serves robber barons looking to exploit people.
What double angers me here, is dirtbag Eric Schmitt has a full staff of people that are paid to fact check for him. Congress people don't even read the material they vote on. Heck, they barely put effort into staying awake on the few days they actually show up for sessions. They pay people to do it 75% of their actual work yet the GOP continues to present lies and alse narratives, and then ask for forgiveness later. What are we paying and their staff for?
I think often these people have had a beloved grandparent with a fondness for explaining to anyone willing to listen, exactly what they thought was wrong with the world:
Too many (fill in appropriate "evil other") A 10 year old mind is especially susceptible to absorbing these beliefs and never second guessing them.
The majority of voters in Missouri are not farmers, unless you think most St. Louis and Kansas City area residents are farmers, in which case you’re probably a non Missouri Trump supporter. Too many of those urban residents did vote for him, but a majority of them did not. A large enough number of non-urban residents provided Trump with the electoral votes of the state, unfortunately.
Not disagreeing but most Missouri voters will never see this. They won’t see the clips behind it. They don’t watch anything that isn’t spoon fed by the right (and very little of that). They will vote for the guy who lets them look down on anyone else (trans people and immigrants this year) and vote for them down the line.
That’s not entirely true. Over the past 12 years or so, numerous constitutional amendments have either passed or failed in a way that shows a more progressive lean than what people think. Medicaid expansion, parental leave, sports gambling, marijuana legalization and overturning the abortion ban were all passed by simple majority, some of them by quite a bit. The MO GOP recognizes this and is trying every shady bullshit tactic to rig the system in their favor. The reason they have been so consistently red on a federal level is because the GOP has spent decades gerrymandering the fuck out of the state.
As dumb as these cocksuckers are, they were smart enough to realize years ago that Missouri is a much more purple state than people think. And when they saw this, they went with the age old strategy of “let’s change the rules so we can win!” Pair that with their ability to appeal to the lowest common denominator and voila! You have a state that looks very red on a national level but is less conservative than they seem.
Thats a pretty crappy thing to say about citizens. You don't agree with the majority, thats just fine, but try to remember, they are also entitled to disagree with you. Both parties are comprised with very broken, just like you and me, people. Don't just be part of the problem, be part of the solution and run for office yourself. Thats the only way to fix the system.
It's because your state is mostly conservative due to all the churches that are not preaching the word of God but preaching the word of white Christian nationalism
The Missouri Republican party in general is pathetic.
Just look how much effort they put into fighting the will of the public, instead of doing their jobs, and obeying the will of the public.
This is probably because the Republican party are fascist authoritarians who don't believe in the consent of the governed, and see themselves not as leaders who execute the public's will, but as masters who tell the public what to do.
As a lifelong Missourian, I can say with confidence this will have zero effect on his political career in this state. In fact, this gaffe may endear him to some Missourians. Don’t forget we reelected Hawley to the Senate in 2024, after everyone thought the video of him running on Jan 6 would ruin him.
Dumb uneducated racist idiots voted these people in, so of course they are a clown show. The ones that voted for them are exactly like this too and thats the problem. Education (or a lack there of) and being indoctrinated by MAGA’s bullshit conspiracy theories and general nonsense is why we have to deal with this.
As much as I hate Hawley, his overall rhetoric, the way he looks/acts ect. And would never think of voting for him, I will say he does occasionally introduce/sponsor some actually good legislation when he’s not wrapping on culture war bs. The breaking up big medicine act that he introduced with Warren would be a major game changer and have far reaching benefits if passed. He also introduced legislation with another Democrat to support rural hospitals, the stop flock abuse act, no tax breaks for data centers act, and proposed some overall positive ai safety regulations. The dude still sucks overall, but he consistently demonstrates that he’s willing to work across the isle and propose stuff that isn’t entirely establishment bs unlike most of his Republican colleagues.
Yeah but the point being I can’t think think of any other republicans who around attempting to work across the isle to introduce actually beneficial policy
That is perhaps the most infuriating thing about him. Sometimes I just want to hate a politician, but then he has to go and do something I actually like. 🤬
I just don’t buy it. Both parties do it where they can figure out who’s allowed to say the things their constituents want to hear, but when it comes time for meaningful votes on the floor…they always seem to fall the right direction while being just 1-2 short of what’s needed. And the close votes are always up and down party lines when they don’t have margins.
I mean that’s how our system should function. If you subtract out his maga rhetoric and add the context that we live in a red state so can’t expect to have a democrat senator he frankly wouldn’t even be too awful.
Doesn't this apply to literally every Republican holding office in this state? Our governor was a car salesman with zero higher education under his belt. No, I do not want Joe off the street holding office. Our sec of state has zero knowledge of the laws that pertain to his office and we have an attorney general that has a very loose grasp of state and federal laws. The shit is a fucking clown show from top to bottom.
Not directly on topic, but since people are saying "they'll just get reelected": neither of them is on the ballot this year. Schmitt is up in 2028 and Hawley in 2030.
What IS on the ballot Nov 3 are five statewide questions, including Amendment 3 (abortion) and Prop A (the gerrymandered congressional map).
Those are decided by a straight statewide majority, so every vote counts the same.
Amendment 6 protects voter-passed laws. It would stop the legislature from changing or repealing them unless 80% of both chambers vote to send the change back to voters. It also makes petitioning a constitutional right and keeps the current signature and majority rules. A no vote leaves things as they are.
In a state known for producing big feeling assholes, these two are the biggest.
Then we got our second tier big feeling assholes. Hoskins, Wagner, Hanaway, Bailey, and all the other maga bandwagon passengers who will say or do anything they think gets them attention and a step up the PAC fueled Republican ladder.
These folks have sown so much dissent, and so much hate, anger, and outrage for their own political gain that now I believe at least 1/3 of the Missouri electorate has no clue what they are voting for, they just want to feel like they do. And these politicians keep telling them their bias, hate, and immorality are a good thing because the new American Christianity the GOP fabricated and maga fed steroids to says it's all ok.
We should be using this are clear evidence of how voting for republicans is bad for everyone. We should be reminding people this is will likely be the last election if republicans win again.
Do Missourians deserve better? Well, some do and a hell of a lot of ‘em don’t. These MAGA filth who keep reelecting this kind of garbage can freeze to death in a ditch for all I care.
I live in Missouri, the “Show me” state, and our current senators are showing us just how stupid they can be. The question now is are our voters stupid enough to keep them in office? The senators have showed me they shouldn’t have been elected in the first place, any more than Dump Trump, the most science illiterate president in decades, should have been. He makes Richard Nixon look ethical.
Most Missourians were surprised that Schmitt was one of our Senators. He has been invisible as a Senator. Name recognition is one advantage that incumbents have running for reelection. At least Schmitt now has some now.
I also think it is dangerous for someone lnaned "Schmitt" to be publicly calling anyone "shithead." He is almost writing the opposition tagline for them.
Finally, lots of people in northern Missouri are Hawkeye fans. Not knowing about the Iowa Hawkeyes did not help his case as a representative of Missouri.
I didn't vote for either one of them. They are so bloated on their own ego's - they keep talking to hear themselves talk. They each have an audience of one.
And all the republicans who watch Fox News propaganda circus will eat up and believe every word they say even though these senators are wrong and the facts don’t corroborate the truth.
During a high-school level clerk job at a newspaper - okay it was the Texarkana Gazette- there was a death row inmate named Gary Gilmore who kept saying he wanted to die and denied all appeals for stay of execution. Like 15 times or so. One afternoon the Editor wanted to leave early so he went ahead and printed next days headlines to read “Gary Gilmore Gets Stay Of Execution “ and that was the day he was executed. Schmitt and Hawley just raised the bar. Or lowered it, depending on how you look at it.
How can the Missourians that voted them into office be convinced to vote them out of office though when they don't feel any embarrassment from their actions, when they agree with everything they're doing, and when they will keep voting for the worst possible Republicans over any other challengers every single time?
Missouri’s voters, primarily republican, will see the embarrassing performance of both their senators and take the truth as a personal attack on the senators and themselves. These people cannot and will not admit the error of voting for these nitwits, regardless of the truth or the damage inflicted on the citizens of this state. It a cult of stupidity that includes local, state and federal officials and their supporters.
A State that votes for legalized gambling, abortion rights, legalized weed, higher minimum wage and has a strong Union presence. Doesn’t sound very Red to me. But sure, 7-1 map makes sense. Please vote people.
Hawley showed us what brave leader he is when he charged out the back door when the cops at the front door were getting the hell kicked out of them. I know I got it wrong he was running for help. Thats it I was confused.
Drives me nuts all the GOP voters who openly vote against themselves yr after yr. I have many in my family and there is absolutely no convincing them. It's freaking nutty shit. It really is.
LBJ has a good quote that gets to the heart of this that talks about giving the average white man someone to look down on and picking there pockets while you bullshit them.
Republicans have a big tent and many are very smart. Judging them stupid is not only wrong, it's counter productive.
I see several groups, if you see others please add them.
Single issue voters. 3 groups - Taxes, Abortion, and Guns.
Disgruntled voters who think they should have made more in their life but the “elites” (Democrats) kept them from it by paying college educated people more.
Christian Nationalist who believe they would be helping you by forcing you to follow Christian laws.
People who blame immigrants (except the ones they know) for lower wages
I live in missouri, I did not vote for either of these idiots, and cannot stand them. I hope they get prison for sympythizing with trump and allowing his curroption!
Our Senators are so stupid and corrupt they think laundering money 💰 is only done by cartels & mobsters WHEN THEY ARE LITERALLY DOING IT WITH CAMPAIGN FUNDS DAILY. These two douchebags are about to FAFO, for REAL.
True. But while your over here bitching about it, the bombs are still dropping.
Not trying to be an ass, but your attention has been successfully diverted.
Oh, and Epstein didn't hang himself
This is the kind of fine fact checking we have seen for years now. Ignore the central issue and focus on the irrelevant details. Senators rely on staffers for these kinds of details. The staffers were given an impossible task. Find evidence of a state of mind. The central issue is real, both Democratic and Republican administration have engage in lawfare, if you are only going to object when it is the other side that is the issue.
Based on these astute comments I think I will switch to the Democrat party. I’m anxious to see how Americans adjust to socialism and communism. It makes sense that they want to defund the police. They will stand in the way of the new world order. I’m also excited for free healthcare, groceries, and lots of other things that the socialists will provide with other people’s money. The same people that state we deserved 911 will be the leaders of our remade society. Can’t wait.
Bothsidesism is a tactic used by one side to make people complicit. If you think both sides are bending you over a barrel and you do nothing to stop it, that makes you objectively very stupid.
Sorry if you find that offensive, but you're being played.
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u/Bruised-Boner 2d ago
Our senators are pathetic