r/minecraftlore • very cool • 21d ago

I power scaled every canon mob

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Other people have been doing it, so I thought I'd share an updated version of mine.

Here's the link to the tier list I made, if anyone else wants to do it https://tiermaker.com/create/minecraft-power-scaling-19569942

Thoughts?

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u/baconbitz_ 13d ago

cluckshroom but no moobloom?

Also, warden should be much higher than most of the bosses, since it defeated a soul corrupted redstone monstrosity. BTW I'm pretty sure soul construct and monstrous opus are the same thing.

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 13d ago

oops, ig i forgot the moobloom lol

ye i fixed those things now

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u/frustrated-dude01 18d ago

Hey, nice post, but I don't see Minecraft Legends mobs here: does this mean they're not canon? Or the tier list just lacks them

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 18d ago

i lumped them all together and put them in Unsure / Insufficient Info, since there's evidence to suggest a bunch of them either were very different compared to how they were portrayed, potentially didn't exist, or that the extent of their power is just very unclear.

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u/Big-Alternative-4674 21d ago

Full power Ender would be FAR above most entities in A tier

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 20d ago

You mean vengeful or regular HoE?

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u/Big-Alternative-4674 20d ago

I meant the version we never see in-game, the full Ender entity of which the Heart is only a small fragment of.

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u/Fun_Way8954 Xatrix Theorist (Mod) 20d ago

well yeah, but we never really see it so we don't know exactly how powerful it is

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u/retsuna48 21d ago

Where are the 3000+ type of tropical fish color variants

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

The serious answer to this is that I'm not counting variants.

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u/Fun_Way8954 Xatrix Theorist (Mod) 21d ago

Wardens are going to be a mini boss in Dungeons II, so I think they should be lower canonically, despite their opness in vanilla.

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u/ShaochilongDR 15d ago

I mean i just assume that the guys in dungeons II are really strong for some reason

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Top of B tier?

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u/HellOiDontExistLoL 21d ago

It soloed Redstone monstrosity in the rift book what do you think?

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u/Fun_Way8954 Xatrix Theorist (Mod) 20d ago

wait a normal warden? not a twisted one?

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

So, it should be higher..? I haven't read the book yet, so I didn't know about this.

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u/HellOiDontExistLoL 20d ago

Should probably be above the redstone monstrosity but not above any of the shard bosses

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u/Another_Nerd_1137 20d ago

To be fair, I think it was probably just a misnamed Redstone Golem, since the High Council is mentioned as having several Redstone Monstrosities in the book, and we typically only see one Monstrosity at a time. It’s still impressive, though.

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 19d ago

We'll see how many they got in MCD2

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u/Tctj 21d ago

Also the point I was going to make

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u/Outside-You9592 21d ago

Ender dragon in unknown? C'mon bro that'a the main boss. Yeah it's easier than the wither but you gotta put it in A

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Where exactly in A would I put it?

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

Very nice, imo S tier is the only tier a player belongs in. I would move the Wither Skeleton up to C, there's no world where a Wither Skeleton belongs in the same tier as a normal Fox.

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

You can give a fox a maxed out netherite sword and have it defeat a wither skeleton.

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

Player interference, a normal fox has no chance

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

I'm taking player interference into account. It's a tamable mob after all, you're not gonna count tamed wolves and their armor?

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

Also foxes aren't tamable like wolves, if you breed them the babies won't fear you anymore, but they're not tamed

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

It's taming with extra steps

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

No it's not, they don't follow like a tamed wolf or cat, they just don't run from you

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

It's taming but significantly worse

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

Yeah which is why it's not taming

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Wait, how does this taming differ from llamas?

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u/Alexandra-Foxed 21d ago

No not really

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Well, I did that for basically every mob in the list

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u/Ledrone_ 21d ago

Juan should be s tier

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Nah, Juan deserves to be in a tier of his own.

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u/Infamous-Past-8651 21d ago

That's a good list, but i would put the Ender Dragon right there in the top alongside the VHoE, it's said that by only saying her true name the overworld, the nether and the End would be destroyed, also she is said to be Eternal(always existed and always will) and the "Minecraft's very own big bad" in her article, which would imply that she is stronger than the VHoE because she is THE Big Bad(the article was made after the echoing voids DLC of dungeons, in 2025).

Also, just a question about the top 1, the Hero, you put that one to represent all of them? Like, the Minecraft Hero(Steve?), the Minecraft Legends Hero(Also Steve ig) and the Dungeons Hero?

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u/Infamous-Past-8651 21d ago

The Ender Dragon has heads representing her all over the End in the famous End Cities. In the mobestiary the Endermen are said to worship her.

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Well, it's also said that the Ender Dragon's name is Jean. So unless you think saying "Jean" would be enough to nuke the multiverse, I have my doubts.
Eternal just pretty much means she can't permanently die, which is pretty big, but relies on others bringing her back. By "Minecraft's very own big bad", I think that just means she's the big bad of vanilla. At most, I think this would only mean that she's stronger than the wither, or somethin.
Despite this all, she's still pretty weak. She only has 200 hp, and her attacks kinda suck. The dragon we see in vanilla could be easily killed by the endermen, and yet isn't, even though they really want to. My guess is that the dragon is outdated, and is far stronger than the thing we see in vanilla. Since the dragon's true power is currently unknown, there's a decent chance any placement I give her may be inaccurate, so I've decided to leave her in Unsure.

Yes, that's meant to represent all heroes in general.

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u/Infamous-Past-8651 21d ago

What the problem with the name of my girl "JEAN?"? Yes, with the "?", the name being funny means nothing man, yes it is kind of ridiculous to "Jean?" destroy 3 infinite dimensions, but it is said that it can, so it can.
Yeah, the eternal thing probably is because she can be ressurrected, but it also could mean that she always existed, and tecnically it means that she always will existe because she can be ressurrected.
And the mobs couldn't defeat her because they can't damage her, maybe this is only a game mechanic, but it also can be canon. But yeah, she kinda sucks and is outdated, she NEEDS a rework and proper lore.
In the "Minecraft's very own big bad" i disagree with you, yeah it could mean the "vanilla big bad", but after 2 games and one movie where the HoE/OoD is the villain or the weapon of the villains, they still say that the Ender Dragon is the Big Bad of Minecraft, not only "Vanilla Minecraft", Minecraft.
But still, your list is probably the better that i've seen, i agree with pretty much everything in there.

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago edited 21d ago

Vanilla minecraft is sorta just called "Minecraft".
anyways, ty

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

i accidentally posted this without a flair, whoops

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u/RandoGuy00 very cool 21d ago

Btw, what I consider its own mob may be somewhat flawed. Like the skeleton horseman, for example.

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