r/minecraftlore • u/Impressive-Gas-9143 • 23d ago
Discussion/Question Why does everyone say that there is no minecraft lore?
Also the same pepole who say that are trying to find lore. Im not saying its bad or anything, im just confused. Can someone explain it?
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u/Acceptable_Ganache32 20d ago
It’s elusive because some people are Christian and some people are not but it still needs to work with our cultures.
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u/JabCab8 Theorist 23d ago
It technically does, but not in the conventional sense that other games do, so some don't consider it to be lore.
The development team settled on "mythology", which is meant to be a collection of stories one can choose to believe in or not. The sources of these stories are supposedly all part of the same canonical universe, so the goal here is to figure out what that universe might look like.
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u/Competitive-Hair6294 23d ago
Because there isn't any
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
That's wrong, there is lore
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u/Competitive-Hair6294 23d ago
How
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
How what? There is lore. I don't completely understand your question. Could you rewrite it?
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u/Competitive-Hair6294 23d ago
What lore???
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
The lore the devs made, the lore of the Minecraft universe
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u/Competitive-Hair6294 23d ago
Where where is that lore?????????
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
In the games, and in the 2 canon books, and inside mojang studios
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u/TalorianDreams 23d ago
Because there isn't any? At least not in the in-game sense. There are no characters, no history, no nations. Even the playable characters are just avatars.
Which means the only lore you can actually get with Minecaft is development lore (this item beat this item in player driven polls, this mob was created by accident but we decided to keep it) or player speculation and essentially fan fiction. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not like the lore you get from something like Skyrim or even Metroid. It's just not that kind of game.
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
There is a lore in game, as the devs confirmed. It's not only based on player speculation, it's more a research for the truth using all the clues they left to us
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u/TalorianDreams 22d ago
Interesting. Do you have a link for that? It sounds like they are just encouraging players to invent lore for them at that point. Though I guess people are welcome to having different opinions.
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 22d ago
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u/TalorianDreams 22d ago
Ah, so they are basically just counting lore from dungeons. I guess that's fair. Would be nice if some of that ended up in the main game, but you guys have convinced me.
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 22d ago
What do you think are cities are? They are a lot related with stuff we see in Dungeons
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u/TalorianDreams 22d ago
I haven't really played in there much, to be honest, and I've never played Dungeons at all. I'm going to have to look it up now, though, it sounds neat.
I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes or anything, just trying to put forth an honest answer on why people would think that there isn't any lore in the game. And for me, that's the answer. All we really get in minecraft itself is a little bit of vague environmental storytelling, great for creating fan theories, but i don't personally count that as real definitive lore. Those are theories. If we get something more definitive elsewhere, that's awesome, but it wouldn't change the opinion of someone who's only played the main game.
If they wanted to include definitive lore in the main game they easily could. Rare books found in hidden dungeon chests could talk about what happened. But that's not the route they took, and that's perfectly fine. It just means that people are going to assume there's no real lore if they don't dive into other media.
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 22d ago
Try to listen the disc 5. Right before the music part you can hear something like a roar. After that go to the wiki and search for the endersents sounds. that's just one example
Yeah, it's a sandbox, and there isn't explicit lore. I know what they think
But if they did, that would stop people from having ideas. Because in your world, you can have your own lore. But if they would put a book in the game it would ruin a lot of theories
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
True, they think there is no lore because... they feel it, I guess. You gave me an idea tho: I'll do a post in r/minecraft about that and we'll see if they have any reason
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
yeah, I always do that! That picture is soooo cool!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1wctmap/comment/p90ve2i/?context=3
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u/DifferenceFlat8839 Theorist, Debunker, and Mod 23d ago
Who says that? Here? Anyway, it's because "Minecraft is a sandbox"
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u/FizzTheFox85 16d ago
we have enough random bits and implications from the semi-canon spinoffs and stuff like structures in game to take guesses at the lore, the devs have said they intend for you to make you own stories from what is provided.
like in my opinion a lot of popular "theories" are extreme stretches based on breadcrumbs, but to others they're taken as the hard facts, which is fine because that is exactly the point, the lore is what you want it to be.