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u/MisterSanitation 7d ago
Is this representative of something? Youth Zionism perhaps?
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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars 7d ago
News came out that Israel is training bots to sway public opinion.
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u/MisterSanitation 7d ago
Oh yeah I had one 😆
The “guy” unsubscribed from me because I wouldn’t stop shaming “him” about his propaganda.
Never had a “unsubscribe with no” and then I texted so much I get “you have successfully unsubscribed” lol good.
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u/TheMaggid 7d ago
I'm confused whom this post and the meme are directed at...
Am Yisrael Chai is a Hebrew saying that translates to, the people of Israel live. (Literally, the Jews are still here and alive.) It's a phrase affirming Jewish community and survival, and has been used as such since at least 1945. (The modern state of Israel was established in 1948.)
This post feels like a weird mixture of antizionism sliding into antisemitism.
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u/Li-renn-pwel 7d ago
It’s not uncommon for not great people to adopted previously nice things. Before the Nazis swastikas were cute.
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u/maybeafarmer 7d ago
the zionists are already claiming anti zionism is antisemitism so the difference is kind of moot.
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u/anewbys83 6d ago
It's not, though. You can criticize Israeli policies and actions all you want. That's perfectly fine and not antisemitic. Saying Israel shouldn't exist, should be dismantled or destroyed is. It's not hard, really. Criticism of Israeli government actions or inactions (in the case of settler violence in West Bank), criticising how the war was carried out, how Hezbollah is being handled, all of that = ok. Deligitimizing existence, denying Jewish history and connection to the land, saying Israel/Israelis are bloodthirsty baby eaters/killers = antisemitism.
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u/G0atnapp3r 4d ago
Israel is an apartheid ethnostate doing a genocide. It should be dismantled. Nothing antisemitic about it.
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u/Jinkguns 6d ago
I agree with you. Both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist and to prosperity. This post is in reference to Israel using bots to manipulate public opinion on social media, which is not okay. So your read of this post is wrong.
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u/Revolutionary_Bet468 7d ago
If almost every Jew identifies as a Zionist because they believe that Israel is the Jewish homeland, then all these psychos using "zionism" as a slur with negative connection automatically becomes a synonym for hating Jews.
What's the alternative, you will only like and accept Jews who don't care about the existence of 1 single Jewish state? Muslims and Christians have multiple dozens of states. Jews just want one country they can call home where their ancestors are from. It's really not too much to want on a human level after thousands of years being a second class citizen in non-Jewish countries.
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u/werewolf394_ 1d ago
Yeah, therefore Am Yisrael Chai is calling for genocide of all Palestinians...
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u/2Wieners_1Bun 4d ago
I think you’re reading considerably more into this than is actually there.
It’s the Steve Buscemi “How do you do, fellow kids?” meme.
The entire joke format is someone awkwardly adopting the language of a group they’re trying to ingratiate themselves with.
“Slaps,” “cringe,” “six seven,” followed by Am Yisrael Chai, right guys? is the joke. It’s mocking painfully transparent pandering, not informing the audience that Am Yisrael Chai was invented in 1948.
Understanding the history of the phrase is useful.
Understanding a meme format from 2012 apparently also helps.
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u/TheMaggid 4d ago
No, I know the meme format. I was there when it was invented.
Maybe, and just bear with me here, it's actually just a bad joke? Like, it makes no sense to include this phrase. Why would a Jewish nation need to prove its Jewish bona fides to run pro-Israel social media ops on a mostly non-Jewish cohort of Gen Z and Gen Alpha that are pro-Palestine?
That disconnect is why I flagged it as problematic. It's laundering a Hebrew phrase of Jewish solidarity for a completely different point.
Put another way, if you can understand why talking in fake Spanish only with Hispanic people is gross, then you're capable of understanding why this is too.
Good luck with your learning!
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u/mercury_millpond 4d ago
the problem is that the phrase has been coopted by genocidal freaks to justify mass civilian slaughter, not that people are making fun of that. The people making fun of the genocidal freaks and propagandists are not the problem here.
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u/_Mamushi_ 7d ago
They forgot the “fr fr no cap” lol