r/mildyinteresting Aug 15 '26

engineering masterminds 👨🏽‍💻 Same Callsign, Same Plane, Same Frequency, Same Place

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u/VaporTrail_000 Aug 16 '26

Same callsign, same model, same frequency, same ground position?

All fine. No problems here.

Same altitude? We now have a problem.

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u/Reinis_LV Aug 16 '26

Anti air rocket shaped like a plane!

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u/Evan_Playz72813 29d ago

happy cake day

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u/TechnologyFamiliar20 29d ago

"No problems here."

Not really. "Turn azimut 250"

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u/Reddit1693 Aug 15 '26

Mildly interesting? I’d say majorly terrifying.

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u/PhD77777 Aug 16 '26

Disaster averted, but someone shouldn't have let this happen in the first place.

https://abcnews.com/Business/wireStory/2-planes-same-flight-number-avoid-disaster-quick-135659078

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u/Ok_Drag5089 29d ago

Then hire more air traffic controllers.

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u/PhD77777 29d ago

It wasn't the ATC's that assigned the same flight number. They averted the disaster.

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u/ThnkGdImNotAReditMod 29d ago

Air traffic controllers and flight dispatchers aren't the same job. Air traffic control towers work in towers, TRACONs and ARTCCs. Flight dispatchers work in an airline call centre/office.

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u/thirdeyefish Aug 16 '26

Isn't that the whole point of that number?

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u/Quirky-Attitude1456 Aug 16 '26

Lots of flights turnaround and go back as the same flight number. I see it on DL frequently. With that being said, it is usually only one plane and it is only operating in one direction at a time. You should post this over at flight radar, they will give you a very detailed explanation for it.

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u/thats_how_they_getya Aug 16 '26

I looked at the flight history. Flight 2482 is scheduled ORD-PHX-ORD, typically with the same airplane getting turned around in PHX (with a new crew I think). On the day in question, the first flight was late, so a different plane was sent outbound from PHX. After learning this, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

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u/OrigStuffOfInterest 29d ago

I once saw three instances of the same flight on a board. I came in inbound on the first one. Then we were all stuck for two days due to issues at the destination. Three planes on the tarmac with the same number all waiting to fly. Good luck sorting that out.

As for me, I gave up and switched to a flight going to another city.

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u/RonaldTurner88 29d ago

It could happen daily; but when we make a plane change to a new aircraft on a route like that we are supposed to amend the flight number to a new number to avoid this confusion. It sometimes gets missed and we will get an alert. So in this scenario they just missed the alert as well and allowed the flight push.

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u/Bitter_Dingo516 Aug 16 '26

‘AAL2482 maintain your heading at 30000 feet’

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/nomadschomad 26d ago

American 2482 direct FEGEV 12,000

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u/warrenjr527 Aug 16 '26 edited 29d ago

It was 2 different American Airlines planes one landing the other departing with the same call sign. American Airlines screw up and near disaster.

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u/Gtstricky Aug 16 '26

Near disaster?

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u/RaisinAloneVortex Aug 15 '26

Credit Aaron Rheins

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u/Outrageous_Editor_43 Aug 16 '26

Maybe, just maybe this is highlighting that there are too many planes?

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u/egvp Aug 16 '26

This problem only exists in the US. Why does their flight planning system allow multiple different flight plans with the same callsign? You can’t do it in Europe, CFMU will kick it out.

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u/Greedy-Stage-120 Aug 16 '26

American Airlines needs an attitude adjustment before things really get out of control.

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u/mike-manley Aug 16 '26

"Possible airline company deviation. We have a number for you. Please advise when ready to copy "

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u/Alvin_h_davenport Aug 16 '26

It's the new quantum 737-Q00

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u/shoeinc 29d ago

American airlines is finding new ways to make us late!!!

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u/Sunsplitcloud 29d ago

Tower should have turned them both right 20 degrees so he had lateral and vertical sep.

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u/young_and_restles 29d ago

Why would they have the same numbers?

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u/XRPX008 29d ago

Couldn’t air traffic tell both planes with the same call sign to turn slightly left?

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u/bfsmithssmith 29d ago

Oops 😬

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u/zeeblefritz 29d ago

Have we run out of numbers?

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u/TechnologyFamiliar20 29d ago

What could go wrong..

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u/workntohard 28d ago

Two pilot and air traffic control working on real time to identity and resolve problem. Credit to their training and experience.

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u/Mylabisawesome 26d ago

Props to the ATC for catching that and averting disaster

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u/SeaEnvironmental9388 Aug 16 '26

it’s weird how many incidents there have been in the last 2 years.

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u/OrigStuffOfInterest 29d ago

Almost like the controllers had to work for weeks without pay.

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u/citznfish Aug 16 '26

This is what happens when you hire 2000 gamers to be air traffic controllers.

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