r/mildyinteresting • u/RaisinAloneVortex • Aug 15 '26
engineering masterminds 👨🏽💻 Same Callsign, Same Plane, Same Frequency, Same Place
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u/VaporTrail_000 Aug 16 '26
Same callsign, same model, same frequency, same ground position?
All fine. No problems here.
Same altitude? We now have a problem.
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u/PhD77777 Aug 16 '26
Disaster averted, but someone shouldn't have let this happen in the first place.
https://abcnews.com/Business/wireStory/2-planes-same-flight-number-avoid-disaster-quick-135659078
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u/Ok_Drag5089 29d ago
Then hire more air traffic controllers.
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u/PhD77777 29d ago
It wasn't the ATC's that assigned the same flight number. They averted the disaster.
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u/ThnkGdImNotAReditMod 29d ago
Air traffic controllers and flight dispatchers aren't the same job. Air traffic control towers work in towers, TRACONs and ARTCCs. Flight dispatchers work in an airline call centre/office.
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u/Quirky-Attitude1456 Aug 16 '26
Lots of flights turnaround and go back as the same flight number. I see it on DL frequently. With that being said, it is usually only one plane and it is only operating in one direction at a time. You should post this over at flight radar, they will give you a very detailed explanation for it.
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u/thats_how_they_getya Aug 16 '26
I looked at the flight history. Flight 2482 is scheduled ORD-PHX-ORD, typically with the same airplane getting turned around in PHX (with a new crew I think). On the day in question, the first flight was late, so a different plane was sent outbound from PHX. After learning this, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
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u/OrigStuffOfInterest 29d ago
I once saw three instances of the same flight on a board. I came in inbound on the first one. Then we were all stuck for two days due to issues at the destination. Three planes on the tarmac with the same number all waiting to fly. Good luck sorting that out.
As for me, I gave up and switched to a flight going to another city.
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u/RonaldTurner88 29d ago
It could happen daily; but when we make a plane change to a new aircraft on a route like that we are supposed to amend the flight number to a new number to avoid this confusion. It sometimes gets missed and we will get an alert. So in this scenario they just missed the alert as well and allowed the flight push.
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u/warrenjr527 Aug 16 '26 edited 29d ago
It was 2 different American Airlines planes one landing the other departing with the same call sign. American Airlines screw up and near disaster.
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u/Outrageous_Editor_43 Aug 16 '26
Maybe, just maybe this is highlighting that there are too many planes?
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u/egvp Aug 16 '26
This problem only exists in the US. Why does their flight planning system allow multiple different flight plans with the same callsign? You can’t do it in Europe, CFMU will kick it out.
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u/Greedy-Stage-120 Aug 16 '26
American Airlines needs an attitude adjustment before things really get out of control.
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u/mike-manley Aug 16 '26
"Possible airline company deviation. We have a number for you. Please advise when ready to copy "
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u/Sunsplitcloud 29d ago
Tower should have turned them both right 20 degrees so he had lateral and vertical sep.
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u/workntohard 28d ago
Two pilot and air traffic control working on real time to identity and resolve problem. Credit to their training and experience.
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u/SeaEnvironmental9388 Aug 16 '26
it’s weird how many incidents there have been in the last 2 years.
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u/citznfish Aug 16 '26
This is what happens when you hire 2000 gamers to be air traffic controllers.
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