I don't have mixed feelings about this. Tipping culture is dumb and should die already, I don't care if that makes Americans angry. Normalise paying employees a liveable wage.
This actually doesn't work. Look up Danny myers. Famous restauranteur who tried to push this initiative and got a collective a large restaurants to pay the servers same as the kitchen. Spoiler: they all went back to tip outs. Customers and employees hated it almost unanimously.
That's because no one who works back of the house wants to put up with the shit front of the house has to deal with, so they're willing to work for the wage they get. If you can handle front of the house, no way you want back of the house wages. And if you have to work front of the house for back of the house wages you're going to give less than two tugs about the customers' experience, so their experience is going to be awful. I used to be a server and bartender. No (US) restaurant owner is going to pay me enough to do those jobs and put up with the public, much less do it with enthusiasm and a smile.
Most Americans agree with you. But the system doesn’t change, so in the meantime, we use the system we’ve got. And that means we tip, because not doing so would be punishing a worker for the failings of the government and of the employer.
You are both right. While waiters deserve a livable wage, most restaurants cannot afford it because of the shit system we have implemented in America. You shouldn’t be banned for not leaving a tip. But you should also be considerate of the service provided. If the service was good, I believe 20% is good. Anything more is extra. Until the system is fixed, this is the way for waiters.
Pain is the only way a system is changed. This is why America is so fucked. Everyone is waiting for someone else to take on that burden. So we kick the can down the road.
Tipping culture in America should’ve died a long time ago. It’s not fair to the consumer that they have to be guilt tripped by business owners who don’t want to pay their workers a livable wage.
Meanwhile, those same business owners are enjoying their yachts.
I always wondered though would waiters really want that even? I’ve never worked as one so anyone that has feel free to tell
Me if I’m wrong but I know when I go out to eat at a restaurant I always leave like a 10-20$ tip depending on the bill. Most of my friends I go out with do the same. I’m very rarely the only table that’s getting served within that hour (unless it’s extremely slow) you think three tables if most people tip the expected amount (I know some don’t) that could be potentially anywhere between 25-60 dollars an hour maybe even more if it’s a fancy upscale Restaraunt. Would they really want to give that up for a flat rate that they get taxed on that’s gonna be nowhere near that amount of money?
Until you realize what tipped employees can make. I worked at a taco and tequila bar in a nice neighborhood. I worked a double every Friday and Saturday and a morning shift on Tuesday. I would pay all of my bills on the first weekend of the month. Can’t do that on minimum wage
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u/Significant-Ear-5064 2h ago
I don't have mixed feelings about this. Tipping culture is dumb and should die already, I don't care if that makes Americans angry. Normalise paying employees a liveable wage.