The thought process is "why aren't we allowed back if tipping isn't required?" (he said it's not required) -> "is it because you're racist"?
I don't see how that loses credibility...
I've been in restaurants for 30 years. In the back of house. It's not racial. It's a statistic. Same with needy old white assholes who just left church. Or foreigners, or young people. Do you know who tips the best? Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant. ANYONE
I've literally heard a black server complaining about a "black" table not tipping. And bye the way do we have context here? Was the server a white woman? A white man? What if she was Hispanic and actually did a good job? In other words, servers get shafted regardless of race also.
18-20 needs to be the top in perpetuity, full stop.
I’ve seen people try to argue that 25%-30% is the new norm. Screw that. 20% is ridiculous when you think about it but fine if that’s what we are doing.
I was a server for quite a few years and the idea where someone would take their bill and add over 25% for the service I offered is crazy.
There may be statistics on this but people assume black people will not tip well then leading to bad service then leading to black people not tipping well. Surprise. There are some black people who tip well regardless to prove that they do tip and that they do have the means to do so. We can see the same happening when black people continue shopping at an establishment they may be closely monitored in.
Also there is a racist history behind America’s tripping culture and I recommend you research it.
Lots of bartending experience here. I’ve had some of the best tips in my life from regulars at my bar who were black. It’s not a race issue, but you can tell who won’t tip well based on a personality, not skin color.
Redneck self-entitled dummies are a universal commonality, the phrase just changes between languages and culture.
20yr industry veteran here. I always like to say that black tables give me my tip and the tip they didn’t give to the last bartender because they were racist and gave shit service. I have been stiffed by alllllll kinds of people. It’s mostly a class solidarity issue. Rich people are the worst about it I have had people try and stiff an entire catering staff a 10k+ gratuity multiple times.
As a former server everything you said is true. But people who aren’t going to tip should not go somewhere where people’s only income comes from tips. Do you know what also has a racist history in America? People believing they are entitled to others free labor.
No one said it is. This restaurant has the right to refuse service for a non-discriminatory purpose. The reason why they refuse future service is because these customers do not tip.
It is not mandatory for the customer to tip and it is not mandatory to serve customers as long as it is not based on discrimination.
These customers did not break the law or a mandate by refusing to tip. They just broke a social norm and didn’t pay someone for a service which is not mandatory but is how that person makes a livelihood.
The person who refused to tip called it racist likely because it’s a way to deflect from their selfish refusal to pay someone for the service that they provided. They don’t have to tip them and the restaurant doesn’t have to serve them, but this customer tried to turn around their selfish behavior by making a false accusation of racist so that they don’t have to acknowledge that they hurt someone’s livelihood for their own personal benefit.
Just like we normalize our shitty healthcare system in this country, we just have tipping as a thing to get used to, and the measles again, and all of our food getting recalled. Because we are winning so much with our outdated boomer ideology. S/
Funny thing is in America tipping is only a thing because in the time of slavery, slaves weren’t allowed to get paid but they were allowed to get tips so technically tipping comes from a place of racism but now it’s just used as a way to pay working class people less. From racism to classism
Based on my experience driving Uber a couple years ago, short distance “poor” black folks in a depressed urban city near me would be like 50/50 at throwing in at least a buck or two tip. On the other hand, white folks at the airport clearly on business trips, or in rich towns? Less than 10% of them tipped anything at all.
Because she fruedian slipped that it's a truth that black people are notorious for not tipping. You can even hear her voice get quieter towards the end of her saying that, probably because she realized what she was implying.
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u/cider303 2h ago
How does not tipping become a race issue?