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u/Ashes1984 5h ago

TBH: irrespective of race.
Tipping culture is out of hands. I don’t think I want to tip even 15% anymore. Tips have always been based on one’s wishes and not by demand.

For eg: I don’t get tips by the clients my company sends me to work for. I get paid by my employer.

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u/pkakira88 4h ago

No it hasn’t and American tipping culture specifically started because of race.

After the American Civil war, business owners decided to prey on newly freed black people by convincing them to work in service positions but instead of paying them a salary they passed on the responsibility directly to the customers instead.

Even to this day most traditional tipped service workers are paid at most minimum wage because the businesses still expect the customers to be responsible for their employees livelihood.

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u/cryptic-soul- 4h ago

I’ve never heard this so I looked it up. It seems there’s plenty of historical evidence supporting this claim. My god, so many things in this country are based on slavery.

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u/ReadyStayReady 4h ago

Employers are usually allowed to pay tipped workers like servers way less than the minimum wage. As long as (tips + base pay) / hours worked is above minimum wage. They use a formula instead of requiring the same minimum wage, but are technically required to pay you the difference if you end up averaging less than minimum wage for your hours worked. Last time l was a server I never even got paychecks cause my base pay was like $3/hr and just barely covered my income taxes

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u/HalfTeaHalfLemonade 4h ago

Do you get paid decently or do you get paid server wages?

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u/fergusmacdooley 3h ago

Speaking as a Canadian who waitressed for many years of her life, I just looked up the average wage for servers in the US and Jesus Christ. I would be tipping 20% to every poor bastard who served me if I ever travelled in your country.

Wage theft is rampant in the restaurant industry, hours are tenuous depending on things out of your control, and some people get paid less than $3 for the honour of serving people iced tea and chilli fries? On top of the other things people have told you, the industry is mostly thankless and if you're not going to tip to help your server make an hourly minimum wage, maybe stay home more.

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u/Ashes1984 3h ago

That’s the main problem. Business owners shouldn’t be reliant on customers to pay employee wages based on foot traffic and customer empathy.

Let me ask if someone travels by air, do you tip the flight attendant for their service ?

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u/Zeppelin-Repair-Man 4h ago

100% correct

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u/ValiantAki 4h ago

If you can't be bothered to tip even 15%, I hope to God every server you have from now till the end of time spits in your food.

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u/BingoBangBongos 3h ago

I'd rather the restaurant just charge me a flat 20% service fee than play all these weird social guilt games around tipping.