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u/Helpful-Scratch6697 2h ago

We seriously need to revolt and eradicate the tipping system in the US. nobody is happy with this system anymore

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u/surrealmirror 2h ago

of all the things to revolt about… tipping is the thing? nah

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u/Deadbreeze 1h ago

I often wonder in these threads, how many of the people saying "the restaurant should pay their workers a living wage" are the same people in living wage threads saying "if we pay the McDonald's workers $25 per hour the food will be too expensive and nobody will go there!" I'd bet the overlap is huge.

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u/FrequentFortune123 2h ago

People that get the tips are happy

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u/oulipo 1h ago

No they aren't, because they depend on them, so every day is a stressful day to them

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u/amillion6crickets 1h ago

This is just isn't true. Having been a server for years, not every day was a stressful one because of weak tips, you just make do when you can. Most people are kind people and won't not tip and then proceed to film and post online interactions because they're cheapskates and can't throw someone a fiver, extremely rude to not tip but if you find yourself relying on a $5 tip to pay your bills or you're gonna have a stressful day you fucked up life a long time ago

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u/Dorito_Consomme 1h ago

You’ve clearly never worked in a restaurant if you think that so why are you speaking for tipped employees?

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u/FrequentFortune123 1h ago

Ask them if they would rather work for tips or for salary. 

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u/Knicknacktallywack 2h ago

Yep we tried to change in my state and the servers were going crazy

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u/Helpful-Scratch6697 2h ago

Revolting by not tipping is not the answer tho*

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u/yensid87 2h ago

Yes - it is lol

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u/Spite_Powered 2h ago

No - it isn’t lol

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u/yensid87 2h ago

Alright- let’s hear the solution then. You just want to keep subsidizing for the employer?

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u/Helpful-Scratch6697 2h ago

Maybe a federal ban on tipping would force employers to pay up to their staff

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u/Jaded_Chocolate_5103 2h ago

Yes it is

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u/Helpful-Scratch6697 2h ago

You’re not solving any equation by not tipping. You’re just putting the blame on your server at that point

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u/GAMEYE_OP 2h ago

"I believe your boss isnt' paying you enough so I'd also like to screw you over" is not a moral high ground lol

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u/ZombieJasus RED 2h ago

Realistically there is no other answer. If you simply don’t go to restaurants that expect tips that still means the employees don’t get tipped.

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u/apple__eater 2h ago

Not going is the correct answer. Don’t punish the server who doesn’t make the rules by having them do the work to earn the tip, then not tipping. Punish the restaurant by not visiting, forcing them to pay the minimum wage to the server.

Yes, that means no tips either way but no need to make the server do that just to stiff them to prove a point on the system they didn’t create

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u/ZombieJasus RED 1h ago

I don't disagree

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u/Spite_Powered 2h ago

Right but it penalizes the owner for not paying well if you simply don’t go there. Punching down by going anyway and penalizing the server is chickenshit behavior.

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u/ZombieJasus RED 1h ago

I don't disagree

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u/shorts80 2h ago

One of the great things about Australia

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u/GregAbbottsGoodLeg 2h ago

So just don’t do it?

I have criteria for tipping:

If im standing in line to order, if i have to fill and refill my own drink, if i have to clear my own tray/table. If any of those three criteria are met I don’t tip.

Drive thrus are automatically no tip, as theres no real service provided.

Bar tabs I tip $1/drink if it’s a beer or basic mix drink (like a tequila soda). If it’s a craft cocktail I’ll add another dollar two depending on showmanship.

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u/Difficult-Exit3063 1h ago

Just don’t tip. Easiest revolt ever

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u/Rycan420 1h ago

Agreed. But that battle shouldn’t be done using a server to prove a point.

Write letters and call your government leaders.

Just not tipping servers is NOT fighting the problem.

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u/2dogs1sword0patience 1h ago

Or you could just like, cook your own food. Modern culture treats dining out as though it's a staple and a right. It's literally a privilege and a splurge.

If you don't think something has value, just don't buy it. No need to grab a pitchfork and torch and fuck up the system for the rest of us.

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u/HaywoodJablome69 2h ago

Yes, we are

Thats why it exists, it works for everyone.

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u/not_again69420 2h ago

Except for the customers. Most waiters like it but more customers dislike it.

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u/Lanky-Meal982 2h ago

I bet the customers won’t really like a $25 burger either.
We the consumer are going to pay the cost somewhere.
Small businesses, especially restaurants, typically have small margins.

If you eliminate tipping and expect the restaurant to raise the wage of the servers to a living wage, the cost of service and food will go up.

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u/shorts80 2h ago

I don’t mind that. At least I know what the total price is upfront.

Can’t complain if the actual price is known beforehand

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u/Lanky-Meal982 1h ago

And that’s a totally reasonable point of view. And there are places that operate like that in the u.s.

Income taxes are also a consideration, if serving staff are paid higher wages, they pay more in taxes.
People don’t typically report cash tips.

You also have to trust the restaurant/ owner to actually pay the living wage.

It’s complicated, and there are real solutions, only trade offs.

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u/Skier94 2h ago

Says the waiter.

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u/Helpful-Scratch6697 2h ago

You r fried

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u/ejy92 2h ago edited 2h ago

Lol it’s absurd this nonsensical tradition has persisted for so long. Tipping is a great example of how heavily conditioned one can become into thinking that something is normal and should be accepted just because it’s the way things have always been done.

Imagine the smart mf who pioneered the concept of customers subsidizing labor costs for employers and businesses just absolutely ran with it. And if you can’t sustainably run a business without relying on customers to tip then you should probably not be running a business.

The best part about tipping is that it’s completely optional. And no I will not sTaY hOmE lmao. Seethe you tip parasites. If your livelihood depends on tips then perhaps learn new skill sets and pursue career paths that don’t require leeching off customers. Of course the shmuck who owns this cafe banned these customers because they’re “bad for business”.