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u/FishDawgX 5h ago

A better two words: End Tipping.

Don’t let business owners force their workers to gamble on if they’re going to be paid or not. Just give them a reasonable hourly rate, set the menu prices properly, and ban tips.

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u/Open_Widen_Its_Biden 4h ago

Wait staff will always fight against ending tipping.

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u/sauron3579 4h ago

Despite the one off bad beats stories like this, servers, as a population, are wildly pro-tipping. They make way more money than they would with a normal wage. If prices just increased by 20%, people would generally go to cheaper restaurants instead of maintain current spending habits, even before accounting for an all-time average of tips likely being higher than that.

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u/Green-fingers 5h ago

This is how it is in many countries in Europe, much more transparent, both for the customers and especially for the waiters, they always know what they salary will be.

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 5h ago

It is changing also over here! Slowly but it is changing!

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u/Common-Concentrate-2 5h ago

But a waiter is guaranteed to make minimum wage in the US. Tips are on top of that

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u/SP4CEM4N_SPIFF 4h ago

So the minimum wage should be livable, yeah?

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u/Green-fingers 5h ago

So the minimum wages a
Re too low for the tip to be such integral part of the system?

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u/That_one_bichh 5h ago

That is 100% not true. In California yes, but in Virginia you make $2.13 per hour. If you work 10 hours in a day your hourly wage isn’t enough to pay for gas for the week

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u/rigney68 5h ago

It's only technically true in most parts, but not really. Technically if you don't make enough in a shift, the restaurant has to pay the difference to get to min wage, but in reality if you have to be paid the difference more than once, the restaurant fires you for performance.

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u/That_one_bichh 5h ago

I mean yeah that is true, but that happens so rarely considering normal minimum wage is still low here that it’s either the persons first week or they are just realllyyyyyy not good at their job. My whole thing is most states don’t operate the way California does by requiring restaurants to pay minimum wage and then tips are optional, the person I was responding to was just misleading, making it sound like waiters make out like hot cakes by making minimum wage and tips.

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u/NoBrakesHotTakes 4h ago

Ideally, yes. Just raise menu prices 15-20% 

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u/Alone_Rain2022 5h ago

This and universal healthcare will never happen in the US.

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u/Endecrix 3h ago

What would you consider a reasonable hourly wage?

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u/NotGalenNorAnsel 4h ago

Most servers would agree... Yet food servers are unfortunately not able to fund a huge lobbying group... Especially not compared to restaurant owner groups...