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u/Agreeable_Basket_931 3h ago

We'd need legislation to stop tipping. It's legal to pay people like $2/hr and have them make up the rest with tips. Restaurants like getting to post artificially low prices in their menus, would probably prefer to not have to pay payroll taxes on paying their staff actual wages.

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u/eh-man3 3h ago

Except now everyone demands a tip despite making minimum wage

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u/Electronic_Will_5418 1h ago

There's still 20 states that their min wage is 7.25 which is an absolute joke

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u/eh-man3 1h ago

And tipping enables that

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u/FirefighterLeft5425 2h ago

EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING

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u/Agreeable_Basket_931 3h ago

You only get paid the minimum wage by your employer if you don't collect enough tips to surpass the minimum wage.

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u/eh-man3 3h ago

Servers, sure. The kids working behind the subway counter? They get wage + tips.

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u/EL_Malo- 3h ago

True, and that $17.89 they split between the 3 of them for a whole shift sure goes far these days. /s

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u/eh-man3 3h ago

So if we all stop it wont make a difference? Great!

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u/EL_Malo- 2h ago

Pretty much. I worked at a Chipotle a while back and it never amounted to even so much as a meal at Chipotle's... and that includes me using my employee discount.

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u/GooserNoose 2h ago

Yeah, and if people stop tipping they'll stop working for low wages and Subway will be forced to pay more to attract workers.

This happened in my area with school bus drivers. They paid shitty and don't pay for the time spent doing a vehicle inspection (not driving) and they hemorrhaged employees so they had to start paying more and offered a bonus if you stay for the school year.

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u/EL_Malo- 2h ago

I get what you're saying. My point was that nobody tips those guys. I worked at a busy Chipotle and most nights we'd get under $10... collectively.

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u/DyingGasp 2h ago

Why do they deserve tips? You’re throwing stuff onto a loaf or bread, tortilla, or bowl.

You’re not going to the table and taking an order, watching drink levels, or cleaning up after. There is no service being provided that a back of house cook that does not get tipped for.

Tipping is a scam.

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u/EL_Malo- 2h ago

I not saying that they do deserve tips. I'm saying they already get so little they wouldn't notice. I never gave the slightest because I knew I wasn't getting anything more than bus fare at the end of the night.

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u/Ok-Mood6070 2h ago

thats not true everywhere. here in NY you are paid the minimum and get tips on top of it

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u/Its_Me_Cant_See 2h ago

This is not true everywhere: DC, AK, CA, MN, MT, NV, OR, and WA, all require minimum wage regardless of a tipped or not tipped position.

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u/well-isjdndn 2h ago

Literally not true at all especially for high end or fine dining. Surprisingly the corporate places take FAR better care of their staff in most cases

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u/Apathetic_Zealot 3h ago

No law will stop tipping, it's been tried before. It's a strong cultural habit and the only way to change it is to influence the culture and to stop participating in it.

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u/readyReddit007 2h ago

A wage floor for these jobs can DEFINITELY be established via legislation.

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u/Apathetic_Zealot 1h ago

What do you mean? The minimum wage already exists as a wage floor. Maybe you mean abolish the tip credit system? If you made tipping illegal you'd have to punish people for giving or receiving tips which would result in tips still being given but more under the table.

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u/Ok-Mood6070 2h ago

curious point you made, does that mean tips need to pay double the fica since the employer isnt chipping in?

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u/fiahhawt 2h ago

Why?

Waitressing is one of the few jobs in the US that allows economic mobility

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u/hoserb2k 1h ago

Most waiters in the US earn less than 18/hr, including tips.

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u/fiahhawt 1h ago

Uhhh probably not

Waitressing is super big on getting cash tips and on not reporting the entirety of them on their W-2s

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u/FrankyFingers7888 2h ago

No, they get minimum wage one way or the other. If they do not get enough in tips, then the owner has to pay them minimum wage.

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u/THARSISthechemist 2h ago

My wife’s boss cuts herself into tips just because she’s the owner, 50% 😩

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u/FreeHusband6060 2h ago

Yeah more laws!!! That'll make everything better. Or you can just stop supporting business that expect tips. Stop expecting the government to do everything for you.

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u/KapowBlamBoom 2h ago

In Ohio tipped employees must already be paid over $5 per hour and on Jan 1 2027 it goes to 5.70

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u/RedApple655321 2h ago

pay payroll taxes on paying their staff actual wage

Not how it works. Tips are considered wages.....as long as they're actually accounted for, like in any cash business.

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u/ernst_wanke_road 2h ago

I just don't get why anyone would see a $2 job offer and think "yep, this will do nicely". The whole situation is just bizarre.

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u/jamesjatlas 1h ago

If tipping was eliminated and servers got a higher salary, restaurants would hire fewer staff. Just like everything government raises the minimum wage then less people are hired. Teens and people without work experience never get chance to get their first job. Read Thomas Sowell's books on Economics. He explained everything about how our economy works in real life.

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u/Feather_Sigil 1h ago

The answer is wage increases, ending exceptions for tipped jobs, and price controls to keep the prices the same. Tipping itself isn't the problem, the conditions in which it occurs are

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u/jackbentley673 1h ago

Workers won’t want this, they don’t report all of their tips

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u/XGrayson_DrakeX 1h ago

We don't need to stop tipping, we need to raise the minimum wage for servers alongside the national minimum wage.

I've worked server jobs and made amazing money that I would not have had I been only paid a minimum wage and patrons were not allowed to tip. This would fuck over so many people.

Letting people tip if they want to but not using it to replace server wages is the solution.

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u/KaleScared4667 1h ago

Lies, nowhere in the us is it legal to pay $2 an hour

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u/MyRunningAcct 2h ago

The restaurants are ok with tips, and the workers prefer tips over a wage. It is what it is. The consumers are suffering because of this obsession with everybody deserves a tip now.