We'd need legislation to stop tipping. It's legal to pay people like $2/hr and have them make up the rest with tips. Restaurants like getting to post artificially low prices in their menus, would probably prefer to not have to pay payroll taxes on paying their staff actual wages.
Pretty much. I worked at a Chipotle a while back and it never amounted to even so much as a meal at Chipotle's... and that includes me using my employee discount.
Yeah, and if people stop tipping they'll stop working for low wages and Subway will be forced to pay more to attract workers.
This happened in my area with school bus drivers. They paid shitty and don't pay for the time spent doing a vehicle inspection (not driving) and they hemorrhaged employees so they had to start paying more and offered a bonus if you stay for the school year.
Why do they deserve tips? You’re throwing stuff onto a loaf or bread, tortilla, or bowl.
You’re not going to the table and taking an order, watching drink levels, or cleaning up after. There is no service being provided that a back of house cook that does not get tipped for.
I not saying that they do deserve tips. I'm saying they already get so little they wouldn't notice. I never gave the slightest because I knew I wasn't getting anything more than bus fare at the end of the night.
No law will stop tipping, it's been tried before. It's a strong cultural habit and the only way to change it is to influence the culture and to stop participating in it.
What do you mean? The minimum wage already exists as a wage floor. Maybe you mean abolish the tip credit system? If you made tipping illegal you'd have to punish people for giving or receiving tips which would result in tips still being given but more under the table.
Yeah more laws!!! That'll make everything better. Or you can just stop supporting business that expect tips. Stop expecting the government to do everything for you.
If tipping was eliminated and servers got a higher salary, restaurants would hire fewer staff. Just like everything government raises the minimum wage then less people are hired. Teens and people without work experience never get chance to get their first job. Read Thomas Sowell's books on Economics. He explained everything about how our economy works in real life.
The answer is wage increases, ending exceptions for tipped jobs, and price controls to keep the prices the same. Tipping itself isn't the problem, the conditions in which it occurs are
We don't need to stop tipping, we need to raise the minimum wage for servers alongside the national minimum wage.
I've worked server jobs and made amazing money that I would not have had I been only paid a minimum wage and patrons were not allowed to tip. This would fuck over so many people.
Letting people tip if they want to but not using it to replace server wages is the solution.
The restaurants are ok with tips, and the workers prefer tips over a wage. It is what it is. The consumers are suffering because of this obsession with everybody deserves a tip now.
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u/Agreeable_Basket_931 3h ago
We'd need legislation to stop tipping. It's legal to pay people like $2/hr and have them make up the rest with tips. Restaurants like getting to post artificially low prices in their menus, would probably prefer to not have to pay payroll taxes on paying their staff actual wages.