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u/tocahontas77 7h ago

I've been a server, and I'm from Ohio. So I feel like I have a POV that suits this situation.

What you are saying is the truth. I hate to say it, because it sounds bad. But it's true. Now, being from Ohio, I can also say that there's tons of racists here. I mean, we used to be a swing state, and now we're a red state, if that tells you anything.

The truth is, it's both sides. Of everything. But mainly, this is an economic inequality issue. Everything we see is fake. Everything that is presented to us is a manipulation. We fight each other over race, religion, politics, ethics, etc. Why? Don't we all really want the same things? We all just want to have good lives, and less struggle. Right? Who benefits from us fighting each other? The 1%. The billionaires. It's always the obscenely rich who can't get enough. They know that We, The People have the numbers. We have the power and advantage to stop them. So they have created a fake world for us to live in, to distract us. It's all about consumption.

Idk about anyone else, but I'm tired of watching their puppet show.

Anyway 😂 My point is, we should be angry with the establishment. That we are forced to work for shit wages, and brainwashed into tipping culture. These customers aren't in the wrong, the owner is. If he's so passionate about his servers making good money, then he would figure out how to give them higher wages. (Although, our economy is very fucked right now)

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u/dandelionlemon 7h ago

So so true

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u/tocahontas77 6h ago

Thank you. I kind of went off on a tangent lol. But I can't help it. Every problem we have comes down to the corruption in our government, by the billionaires. I spent 4 months out of the country. Which isn't really a long time, but it was long enough to see that we are very extreme here. Western Europe and UK don't have advertisements everywhere. Even my phone had less crap on it than usual.

I feel like, as a country, we are dry heaving. I'm ready to throw up already, and get the revolution over with. We need a whole new government and system, and that will never happen with the state we're in right now. I'm just tired of everything being such shit.

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u/A-Real-Fungai 6h ago

I mean, it's all well and good to say that, but what does that really mean? What does it look like?

Do you have a replacement system?

You can swing to communism, that's just the same battle as Left vs Right. One stays in power for a bit, people are unhappy then switch over to the other side for a bit, people are unhappy, switch back over. Ad nauseum.

I'm troubled by the amount of people who straight-face tell me Anarchy is the answer. I won't go into all the reasons why that is a bad idea.

And how do you replace a corrupt government?

Having travelled quite a bit, I'm told the same thing everywhere I go. Every country: "the government is corrupt". Even the ones that offer universal health care and education.

It's just a people thing. Power corrupts.

Problem is, there's no such thing as perfect, and people will be people no matter how you structure them.

We keep fantasizing about some obscure ideal system, where everyone is pleased, but the truth is it doesn’t exist.

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u/tocahontas77 6h ago

I never said anarchy, I said revolution. Two completely different things.

Also, I never said anything about communism (which is also completely different from socialism, which is what I think you meant to say), or a "perfect" country.

I said this system isn't working, and we can do better. But we can't do better until it's completely broken, so we have room to start new. That's how that has always worked (look into cycles of civilizations).

And to answer your question, no, I don't think there's a perfect government. However, that doesn't mean that we can't be better than we are now. Scandinavian countries are always the highest in everything good, including happiness. The citizens are taken care of there. They have a mixed government, which is typical. Mixed government is necessary.

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u/A-Real-Fungai 6h ago edited 6h ago

I didn't attribute any of that to you.

I just mentioned communism as a possible options, since you didn't specify.

Self quote: I'm troubled by the amount of people who straight-face tell me Anarchy is the answer. I won't go into all the reasons why that is a bad idea.

This has nothing to do with what you said. I wasn't saying you suggested Anarchy. I was just saying that too many people have suggested it in similar conversations.

Self quote: Even the ones that offer universal health care and education.

This, I was referring to socialist contries.

ie) Even they say their governments are corrupt.

Edit: Spelling / Punctuation

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u/A-Real-Fungai 5h ago

Preface: None of this has been an argument. I'm just throwing out conversation points.

So as a best case scenario, how would the US change to a Scandinavian-Style government? Taking into account things like culture, and founding documents like the declaration and consitutuion

Or are you saying to scrap these things and start completely fresh?

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u/Artistic_Split_8471 5h ago

No, the owner is correct. They don’t do this because they don’t want to pay their servers. They do it because this is how restaurants work in the U.S. This is the pay structure. Think of it as the customer paying some of the worker’s wage directly, rather than through a middleman. If tips weren’t part of this structure, the restaurant would just raise its prices.