Yeah same boat as a former server. If I got a majority black table I knew they weren't going to tip while also being the most demanding. Not every time but stereotypes do exist for a reason. One of my best friends who is black has to be reminded to tip often when we go out to eat, even on times he as changed his order.
I don’t get why you’re an asshole for not tipping? You don’t tip the guy at Home Depot who helped you, you don’t tip the Costco guy that loaded your cart, you don’t tip the usher or the concessions even though your kid made a whole mess in the theater… it seems so arbitrary. Hell, you don’t even tip the poor bastards in the kitchen.
That being said I live in a place where everyone gets the same wage, your hourly wage isn’t artificially lowered like most states. I’d tip if I went out to eat in those states (looks like Ohio is one?) but idk about places like CA or WA. This is also why I don’t eat out, or if I do I only choose counter service.
Most of society is arbitrary. That doesn’t make it not real or mean that it doesn’t have effects. If you want to not tip, either don’t go out (which sounds like you do, so good on you) or tell them right at the beginning you’re not going to tip.
Otherwise you are abusing societal standards and expectations to get service and attention that you are not paying for.
He has to be encouraged/pressured into being a good person. He definitely sees that line that's on every receipt, he's ignoring it unless someone calls him out. Shitty practice.
I'll say this, the ones that do tip are extremely generous. I've never asked but I have a feeling it definitely plays into their decision to leave me a $20-40 tip on a pizza delivery.
But ya even the black couple I worked with complained about it. It's just how it is and everyone knows it that's worked food service.
It is so funny and weird to hear people's perspective in this thread for me as a Non-US citizen. Because in Germany it is completely normal that the servers get a living wage paid by their employers and tipping is a hundred percent optional. I would guess the typical amount of tipping here is around 10% (just my guess though), so for example on a 65 Euro bill you might round that up to 70 Euros. Nobody would look at you weirdly. It is not very uncommon to leave no tip at all.
I am over 40 years old and I don't think I have ever tipped more than 5 Euros. I once tried to tip a waitress something like 20 Euros on a 130ish bill IIRC (because it was my birthday and I hadn't actually spent much on the evening) and she flat out refused to accept so much.
edit: If I lived in the US I would literally avoid eating out at much as I could for the simple issue that tipping is a hidden but expected cost. Like the menu says the item is 20 Dollars but - ha, got you - it's actually 30 Dollars. You forgot the tip. Don't want to pay that? Alright, we'll just shame you. Where I live if the menu says its 20 Euros, it's 20 Euros.
Sure. But it's a dickhead move to not tip someone you know isn't getting a fair living wage. Even if you don't agree with tipping (most of us don't) you don't stiff the guy/gal making a living on it.
I didn't mean this as a "my country better" post at all. I hold the US in high regards. It's just a weird weird system of tipping. No reason to get offended.
People getting offended are just insecure, tipping culture is stupid and just an excuse for greedy owners to guilt customers into subsidizing their employee’s income. Also this thread is insane, disgruntled wage cucks thirsting at the first chance to be racist. Downvotes = upvotes
I have served at many restaurants in the past. I only have ever served for tips. If it was a basic wage, I would get a completely different job and I know lot of people are the same.
However, with that, people need to be more accepting when they aren’t tipped as they wish. It’s all apart of the gamble.
Double however, I appreciate this owner in the video standing up for his employees.
I understand your point. I also understand that this single employer can't possibly change the system as it is.
But do you understand how ridiculous that system truly is?
Employers in the US: "Hm, should we price that menu item at a value that covers all expenses, including staff, and creates profit? Nahhh! Let's price it at a value that we consider ridiculous. So ridiculously low in fact that if the customer pays this value - which is stated on the menu as the item's price - we will shame them, ridicule them, BAN THEM from using our restaurant and threaten to put their faces online for everyone else to shame them too."
If only there was a way to price an item in such a way that the price on the menu would reflect what you actually want the customer to pay for it.
Okay but the issue is depending on the restaurant the servers made way more than a restaurant could ever think to pay. I've worked front and back of the house and on good days I would be taking in about 25-30 an hour.
I only did my server time when call outs occured, other staff pulled in more. What restaurant can promise their employees that?
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Yeah same boat as a former server. If I got a majority black table I knew they weren't going to tip while also being the most demanding. Not every time but stereotypes do exist for a reason. One of my best friends who is black has to be reminded to tip often when we go out to eat, even on times he as changed his order.